Discussion in 'The Breeding Ground' started by xxpoppetxx, Jun 9, 2008.
do you think breeding is right to do or completely the wrong thing to do?
Depends on why its being done.. Do you mean breeding champion type dogs or uh well uh other things..
Depends on how you go about it and for what reasons. It's not a "yes" or "no" question.
Errr... neither? Error: need more information.
I think she means along the lines of some people say nobody should be breeding at all, it's bad while others think It's wonderful to hear the neighbor is breeding her dog to the one down the street because puppies are awesome. I don't think she's talking about herself.
My feelings are this: We have a lot of homeless dogs, most of which are awesome family pets. That said sometimes people need something specific, they adore a certain breed that is PERFECT for their family and somewhat hard to find in shelters, They want a puppy and cannot risk getting a large dog because they will be evicted or simply really want a small dog, They'd like to show, they'd like to have a working dog and although shelter dogs can be made into great hunters, he would rather have a dog who's parents were both great at it so his chances of getting the perfect hunter are better, there are not many puppies in shelters their area and they would like a puppy etc.
So those people want breeders. Plus if their were no breeders dog breeds would die out and since dogs don't roam too much anymore dogs might die out eventually because in breeding would occur so much that health declined in the lines and they all started dieing young.
What I think is awful is seeing people breeding for no good reason. People who's only goal is to make great pets, well thank you very much but that dog can be found in the shelter. Breeding dogs who do not fit the breed standard of conformation and temperament means the puppies will offer you nothing that a shelter dog could not. Even though that breed is supposed to be a perfect match for you and your family, since you have no proof these parents are anything like the breed you may not be getting a good dog for your family. Take my aunt for example. Her Shih-Tzu is aggressive and 18 pounds (not over weight). She is very large for a Shih-Tzu and her brother and father are even larger. Her sister and one brother are dog aggressive. She hates being touched by most people. So she did not get the Shih-Tzu temperament nor does she really fit what one is supposed to look like. So if someone was out looking for that perfect pet, read about Shih-Tzus, loved them and got her they would be less than pleased since what they got does not look or act like what they expected or wanted.
If you want to play guessing games there are plenty of puppies in shelters that would be perfect for you. If you want something specific you need a GOOD breeder (or an adult from a shelter but lets assume you really ant a puppy). That is someone who breeds for a purpose that shelter dogs do not fulfill: a great hunter/breed specific worker, a show dog, or simply a dog who's temperament and looks will fit the breed because she has been shown, worked and (in the case of dogs who are supposed to be great with strangers, other dogs etc.) have their CGC and are therapy pets. those breeders are offering something you would have trouble finding in a shelter puppy.
Plus there is the issue of health, some people do not want the health risk involved with getting a shelter dog who might have inherited Hip Dysplasia, Luxating Patella or something else. A good breeder will have tested for those things that are common in their breed, a bad breeder will not so their would be no difference between the health insurance of that dog and the shelter dog.
So I am against irresponsible breeding and all for responsible breeding
if no one bred, we would have not dogs
if we waited till every dog that bad breeders bred had homes we would loose all the healthy sane and 'proper' breeds.
So breeding in my books is a good thing.
(irresponsibly breeding is horrid)
EVIL. And wrong. Morally bankrupt, even.
(yeah.. I couldn't resist.. flame away!)
*smacks Nolu w/ PETA signs*
NOOOOOOOOOO! DON'T HURT MY BELOVED PeTA SIGNS!!!!!!!
Oh yeah, and owning dogs is evil, too. (hey, I figure if I'm going to be crazy I ought to be REALLY crazy.(
I hate mass production of dogs for anything from anywhere........including what is considered to be responsible breeders.
And I agree with what has already been pointed out.
It's bad, yo.
If done for the right reasons and responsibly then I believe it SHOULD be done. The breeds we see today would diminish if just the BYBS existed. It would be a sad sad day.
Ethical, registered breeding is very right.
BYBing/milling etc are very wrong.
An ethical breeder is preserving a breed and ensuring the safety of it for the future. They are keeping stable, well rounded dogs in existence and improving on what we have now.
Without them, the future of dogs as pets would be a mess.
For those who say its (just plain) wrong... are you in line with Peta's "there should be no pets" philosophy?
Cause if no one bred, there would be no dogs period.
(well maybe feral dogs...)
If all the health checks have been done on the breeding pair, yes go ahead. If you're breeding just to see what it's like, like my niece is, it's wrong.
I agree with whoever said that even 'responsible' breeders breed WAY TOO MUCH often times. How many BIG time breeders got there because of one litter? They are well aware it takes lots of dogs to make that kind of impact. I'd be horrified to see how many dogs they've actually produced. Me thinks it'd be upwards of 1000 puppies.
*is horrified now*
I don't think a breeder who breeds way too much IS responsible. I did not point out all I look at when looking at a breeder but I always look for number of bitches and upcoming litters. I don't like to see a large number of females or more than one litter per year (I know some disagree with that but that's just my preference). I like when they write "we are a small hobby kennel who occasionally have puppies available" or something to that effect.
I will never support 'big time' breeders.
You're right, they are NOT being responsible then.
It really, REALLY depends on the breeder and the dogs but I don't like multiple litters being produced in one year either.
what i really hate is when people have puppies from a mother that is very young, and then about 6 months later, get the dogs pregnant again, because this is NOT fair on the dog. When i buy dogs i always try to avoid buying a puppy from a dog thats just had a litter.
How do you feel about competitive breeders of working dogs who do not health test, but breed strictly for function? Just try to convince a hound breeder that health testing is necessary, but they have done a heck of a job of protecting their bloodlines. I should add that they also cull heavily, for temperament, conformation, health problems, and lack of working ability.
I couldn't do it, but I love these dogs.