Charley decided to take Shiva with us when we went to a friend's house a couple of weeks ago. David and Tammy have two teenage boys and a five year old daughter, Madison, who is most precocious. Madison's never been around a dog at all, let alone a dog like Shiva. She was a little tentative about meeting Shiva, whose head is pretty much even with Madison's. Madison stepped back a bit, but bravely stood still while Shiva kissed her cheek. Charley looked at Madison and said, "Shiva's friendly and gentle, Madison, you don't need to be afraid of her." Madison's very matter of fact reply was, "Yes, but Charley - she's HUGE."