Innova Questions

[showpug]

To all you Innova EVO feeders, I have some questions as I am about to switch my dogs to it

Anyone have a giant dog on the food, and how much do you feed in cups?
Are your dogs in good physical condition? Shiny coats, energetic, and do they like their food?
Do you really end up feeding less of this food?

Any comments would be welcomed. Thanks!!!

 

[bogolove]

Yes, EVO is great. If you do a search, and put in Innova EVO you will see many threads about this that can probably answer any questions you may have. There have been numerous threads about this food as it is an excellent food that many people consider switching to and end up switching to. Have you checked out all of the ingredients in it? You can look at

www.naturapet.com

and you can compare it to other foods and see how much better quality and ingredients it is.

 

[oriondw]

Yeah quality food.

My guy eats about a cup of it at night. More then normal innova even. I guess it tastes better.

 

[showpug]

Thanks for those of you who have replied! I have read about it a lot and have visited the natura website a ton, but I actually like to hear from people who are using it, not just the company. I am currently feeding a high quality food that they love and are doing vey well on, but I always look to improve. We have a mixed breed puppy who will be very large when he matures. He is a mastiff/wolfhound cross. I want to feed all 4 of my dogs EVO, but as you know it is more expensive and I just want to make sure that they really do eat less of this food I am also very concerned about coat quality for my dogs as I show in conformation and a healthy coat reflects a healthy inside. Thanks for the input

 

[Mordy]

they do need much less of the evo than of other foods, and one of the reasons is that it simply doesn't have all the grains in it.

simple calculation example:
if you take a pound of evo and substract the 10% moisture and 12% carbs, you are left with 78% of concentrated food matter made up of meats, fats, some veggies and some minerals (from increased content of bone, connective tissue etc., instead of grain fiber).

if you take a bag of typical mainstream food, you often have 40-60% carbs and 10-14% moisture, leaving you with only 26-50% of the meats, fats etc.

of course you need to be aware of the fact that carbs are the cheapest source of energy and by feeding evo the metabolism will instead utilize first the fat and then the protein content not just for maintenance but also for energy. compare it to running a car on a higher grade of fuel - more expensive, but performance is much better.

 

[oriondw]

Yep biggest reason i like evo is the lack of carbs in it. In my opinion the ingredients that provide them are just used as space fillers and serve no good.

 

[Renee750il]

I'm feeding two giants - two Fila Brasilieros - and a large - GSD/wolf - the EVO. I recommend it highly; wouldn't consider anything else! As far as the amount goes, I just follow the recommendations.

By the way, Emma, Innova makes cat food . . .

 

[CreatureTeacher]

I know, I managed to get the website going.

Here's a question, though, since we're asking about Innova. I've been told several times to feed my cats a uretic dry food (they're now on half raw/half Wysong) with a low "ash" content. Do you know what that means, Mordy? Why are they putting ash in my cat's food in the first place? Ash from what? And how do the Innova foods measure on the ash scale?

See, this is half the reason I feed raw. I like to know just what's going into my animals....

 

[opokki]

Not Mordy, but ash is the mineral content of the food. You could email Natura to find out the target urine ph of their EVO cat food. The target urine ph in the regular adult and lite Innova formulas as well as their California Natural is 6.4 - 6.6. I don't pay much attention to the ash content as I don't feel that the % of ash on the label is a direct indication of anything...it just does'nt tell you enough. The EVO ash content is higher than most brands because of its high meat content. I am more interested in the target urine ph.


CreatureTeacher: Do your cats have special dietary needs due to FLUTD or was the recommendation of a "uretic food" with a low ash content just a general recommendion to you from someone?

 

[CreatureTeacher]

Thanks for the info, Opokki!

Yes, both my boys have bladder and urinary ph issues. The older one has gotten blocked twice and was hospitalized for several days. The vet I had at the time took complete advantage of my already frantic, I'm-a-bad-mom state, and told me it was all my fault for feeding him a raw diet. Needless to say, I have a new vet now. But the vet school in town obviously doesn't place a lot of emphasis on nutrition, so these poor vets are learning from what amounts to propoganda from the big pet food corporations.

 

[oriondw]

Something else to say, this is the only dog food, bar normal innova he actually eats.
Im glad he actually eats this food His very picky about dry foods.

Some info:

My pup is 140 pounds, 32" at shoulder blades, and is about 5'5" Tall when standing on his feet.

 

[Renee750il]

Similar in size to my females, Orion. They may be a bit taller due to the exaggerated leg back leg length of the breed. Kharma's father, Gamble, weighs in at a little over 170. It's going to be interesting to see how large she ends up being when she's mature. Shiva probably lacks another six months or so before she's fully mature.

How much longer until Orion's reached maturity? I'm thinking the Ovcharka is on a similar time table - two to two and a half?

 

[oriondw]

His dad was aroun 145 and mom at 160ish.

He took after his mom. He still needs to fill out alot. Im guessing he'll be around 160 when done.


He'll be done at around 2.5-3


Caucasians are a litttle smaller then fila's i think.


good size for male is 140+
Female 120+

 

[CreatureTeacher]

Wow! What kind of dog is he, Orion? Big boy! How long have you been feeding him Innova? Since he was a little guy? Sorry to be nosy, I'm just interested in learning about this food. How do you feel it measures up to other products like Wellness or Canidae?

 

[oriondw]

Wow! What kind of dog is he, Orion? Big boy! How long have you been feeding him Innova? Since he was a little guy? Sorry to be nosy, I'm just interested in learning about this food. How do you feel it measures up to other products like Wellness or Canidae?

we've been feeding Innova for about 5 months. Before that it was Eagle pack.


He likes innova better.


I like innova as well. I try to buy everything best for my pup.

 

[candy722]

yeah toki loves Innova than canidae. He didn't even want to touch that. But you know what, Something about Science diet all dogs love the taste. My boyfriend two yorkies only eat science diet. I gave them some Innova and they won't even eat 1 pellet.

 

[Mordy]

Something about Science diet all dogs love the taste.

nope, i know a number of dogs who flat out refuse it. and a friend of mine has a dog who tends to pee on science diet bags in pet stores if she doesn't pay attention. it's always science diet, never any other brand.

 

[Renee750il]

Sounds like they're roughly similar in size, Orion. Gamble is on the large end for a male Fila. There are some out there who are breeding for 200 pound Filas, but we don't deal with them. What they're doing is bad for the breed and what these dogs have been bred to do for centuries. These 'breeders' who are breeding for overly large size are seriously compromising the speed and agility of the Fila. Not to mention they tend to have entirely the wrong attitude about the Fila - touting them as "protection animals" and "personal security dogs." ANY Fila will protect its people, animals and property, but they are very much family dogs, devoted to their families. There is a widely used saying in Brazil; "faithful as a Fila."

 

[candy722]

that's funny. I wish my boyfriend's dog would pee on the science diet. I told him to stop feeding them bad food. If he was going to spend $8.99 on that bad then he should just swich to Innova and just pay $2 more and get better food.

 

[Barb04]

Just switched Max over from Eagle Pak to Innova EVO. He loves it! I used to have to put things in the food to try to get him to eat it; now with the EVO, he will eat it by itself.