Indoor cats?

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  1. mjb

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    As far as your dogs getting into a covered litter box, my cats were adults when I got my dog, so we just put a gate up to the room that their litter box and food is. They can jump it, and the dog cannot.

    I could probably have installed a kitty door into the door of the room that the cats could fit and the dog couldn't. The dog is bigger, but he is not enough bigger that he wouldn't have given it a good try at fitting in the door, though.

    I 'think' my vet told me I could sprinkle meat tenderizer on the cat's food, and the dog would not be interested in their poo anymore??
     
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    I'll answer this with my awesome experience of only ever owning 1 cat. :p

    1. How do you keep a cat inside and happy? And without tearing up everything without declawing it?
    Easy! Jinx is an indoor cat and he's fine. He'll go out in our fenced in backyard and sun bathe or roll around in the grass, but that's about the extent of his outdoor exposure. He does not pine to go outside. He is declawed, but only because my parents thought that was what you were "supposed" to do... you get them neutered, you get them declawed. Never had an issue with him scratching or ruining things. I think the issue comes when you try to take an outdoor cat and turn it into an indoor cat. But for cats that don't go outside, they don't know any differently so it's not a big deal for them to be kept inside.

    2. Do you just... leave them loose while you're gone? You don't have to crate them or make a cage for them? I'm so worried they'll get into everything...
    I suppose if you had a particularly naughty cat, you might want to confine them. Jinx is left loose. He just sleeps.

    3. What do you do for outdoor time? Do you give them outdoor time?
    He hangs out in the fenced in yard. It's not something that we make an effort to do with him - we just frequently leave the backdoor open so that the dogs can go in/out as they please, so occasionally Jinx will wander out there too.

    4. Food- in general is a good brand of dog food going to make a good brand of cat food?
    Yes.

    5. Litterbox and smell- how do you keep the house from smelling? I've changed shelter litterboxes and they SMELLED bad. I don't want my house to smell like dog or cat.
    Diet goes a long way. Jinx is on raw so a) he doesn't even poop that often and b) when he does poop, it doesn't smell. His poop when he was on Iams or Hills c/d was bigger and stinkier. But still not awful. Most of the cats we get at work for boarding are on some sort of Purina or grocery store brand and they have NASTY smelling litterboxes even though we clean them 2x a day. I try to clean Jinx's box once a day. I don't always succeed. It still doesn't smell.

    6. Pros and cons of adopting a kitten versus adult. I almost wonder if it might be better to find an adult for adoption that has a good, easy personality.
    I find kittens nuts. Personally I would rather have a puppy than a kitten lol. You can easily find an adult cat with a nice personality. And if you don't like the idea of declawing but are worried about destruction... I'd say most shelter adults are already declawed. I have met lots of super awesome adult shelter cats... if I had my own place and could adopt them, I'd be a crazy cat lady by now.
     
  3. sassafras

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    Most everything I would have said has been said but I will add...

    Baby kittens I usually confine to one room when we are not home, with all their stuff.

    Just cleaning the litterbox at least once a day will take care of most of the odor. Unless you have an intact male, urine takes time to get smelly (as it changes to ammonia). Cat poop is pretty stinky but diet makes a big difference and just keeping the box clean is really all you need to do IME.
     
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    That must be a local thing, declawed cats are a rarity up here in the shelters. I've honestly never found the cats that destructive, the couch got scratched a little before they learned, and then they stopped. Tucker on the other hand has destroyed hundreds of dollars worth of stuff and we haven't detoothed him yet lol.
     
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    I agree with getting two... they'll keep each other company.

    My cat is indoor/outdoor, not by my choice. The problem really when you have other pets that go outside, is that it's hard to make sure the cat stays in. That's how I had to let my cat out when I moved to the US. Now 10 years later she's home 90% of the time but gets really mad if she can't go out (we tried in our apartment, after 2 months she was peeing everywhere... it stopped as soon as we let her out again).

    Anyway, my point is that you'll have to make sure to be really careful when you let your dogs out. I want my next cat to be an indoor cat but I know it will be tough with the kids and all.

    To keep an indoor cat happy, lots of toys, cat tree etc.

    I hate changing the litterbox though. And with dogs you have to make sure it's in an area they can't reach (we have a little space behind the kitchen and put everything there with a gate with a little door for the cat). Your best bet is to clean it twice a day, pretty much (which is why it's so annoying when it's out of the way and why I hate it LOL). This way pee doesn't stay in long enough to stink. I use some natural clumping litter, can't stand the non clumping stuff.

    For food I give her evo. She has kibble available all the time and gets 1/3 of a little can every evening.

    Kitten vs adult - I like both.
     
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    1. How do you keep a cat inside and happy? And without tearing up everything without declawing it?

    They adjust. I think younger cats are more likely to want to get out, but if you're consistant about it not being an option, they're fine. A spray bottle by the door helps, and that works for behaviors too (spray them when they go to scratch the wrong thing).

    2. Do you just... leave them loose while you're gone? You don't have to crate them or make a cage for them? I'm so worried they'll get into everything...

    Yup, or in a covered xpen or smaller room, if needed.

    3. What do you do for outdoor time? Do you give them outdoor time?

    I've debated on making an outdoor pen for our cat but now that it's just her, and sadly don't feel the need to go all out, we won't. She does escape from time to time but comes back for food.

    4. Food- in general is a good brand of dog food going to make a good brand of cat food?

    Yes, but raw or canned is best, or at least some canned with water. Our cat gets fed at night, so if she's outside she comes in before bedtime, and we can limit her calories that way so she's not a bowling ball with hair.

    5. Litterbox and smell- how do you keep the house from smelling? I've changed shelter litterboxes and they SMELLED bad. I don't want my house to smell like dog or cat.

    We use a large rubbermaid tote, the size of a laundry basket but taller. Cut a hole in it but she just hops in over the edge anyway. And horse bedding pellets that are awesome for litter, cheap and work great. We should pick the poop out and stir it daily but have gone as far as three weeks before realizing it's not been done or changed and it's in the same room that we watch TV in. The litter just rocks and works well, even on dry food and canned food.

    6. Pros and cons of adopting a kitten versus adult. I almost wonder if it might be better to find an adult for adoption that has a good, easy personality

    I did not like our cat till she turned 2. It was almost a daily 'we should get rid of her' mindset, she was horrible as far as getting into things and so on. Now that she's a bit older she's nice and laid back, kinda lazy for the most part, but will catch mice (the main reason she did not get sent away). Plus there are so many unwanted cats that need homes, same as dogs that way. You'd have to just be sure it's one that isn't going to have litterbox issues, personally I'd tell any rescue that if the cat doesn't use the box, it's gone, but keep in mind we just rehomed a cat that thought beds were optional bathroom areas for his use and we had to keep all bedroom doors closed at all times, as well as all laundry and so on. Not fun with kids and an ADHD partner!
     
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    My cat is the love of my life. I have no idea what I am going to do when she passes away, she's 16 years old. I picked her out from the pound when I was 4, and we have been inseperable ever since. She is definetly MY cat and I am definetly HER human...

    1. How do you keep a cat inside and happy? And without tearing up everything without declawing it?
    In my experience, they just ARE. If you raise a kitten or get a cat that's not feral - I've never had any problems with it, besides stepping outside for a few minutes to explore, my cat has never had a problem with being an indoor cat. Neither did my RIP cat, Jack, although he liked to go outside a lot more and explore.


    2. Do you just... leave them loose while you're gone? You don't have to crate them or make a cage for them? I'm so worried they'll get into everything...
    They aren't like dogs. My cats never get into anything. The only problem I had with this was with my RIP cat, Jack, licking the grease off pans that were left out.

    3. What do you do for outdoor time? Do you give them outdoor time?
    Mine are let out when they stand by the door. Jenna will MEOW non stop until I follow her where ever she wants me to go - whether it be to the door or her food bowl. Then she comes in whenever she wants to come back in.

    4. Food- in general is a good brand of dog food going to make a good brand of cat food?
    Pretty much.

    5. Litterbox and smell- how do you keep the house from smelling? I've changed shelter litterboxes and they SMELLED bad. I don't want my house to smell like dog or cat.
    Mine never smells up the house. Animal shelter litter boxes do for whatever reason, I agree. I change mine twice a week. Different kinds of litter = different smell. Choose a kind of litter that works for you and your cat and just change it twice a week. The only time my cat poops and pees in the house is when her litter box is a little too dirty for her likin'. ;)

    6. Pros and cons of adopting a kitten versus adult. I almost wonder if it might be better to find an adult for adoption that has a good, easy personality.
    Yes, PLEASE adopt. There are TONS of kittens AND adults cats in the animal shelter, as I'm sure you know. So much that they're considered vermin more than pets. Just pick one out that you click with, whether it be an adult cat or a kitten.
     
  8. Barbara!

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    I currently own 4 cats. At one point when I was doing cat rescue... I have a total of 18 cats in my house, 10 of which were kittens. My nieces and nephews call me Aunt Kitty. So... This is my advice based on my experience and opinions with all the cats I've had come through my house. Lol.


    I am pretty against having outside cats, so we have made this work. WINDOWS. Cats love, love, love windows. In our old house, we had a couple windows fixed with extra large sills with cushions just so they could sit in them. They would do that almost literally all day. Also, scratching posts. It's not that difficult to get them to realize that the scratching post is the most badass thing in the house to scratch. Keep a couple around and trim their nails, and you're good to go.

    I have always left mine loose. But yes, it's likely they can/will get into things. Mine know how to open cabinets. The solution? I don't necessarily leave things around that they can ruin. I'm pretty tidy, so that's not difficult for me. I also have 4 cats. With one, I'd say you would just have to worry about possible toilet paper massacres or knocked over knick knacks. In the house I'm at now, my cats have their own bedroom so we shut them in there... But not everyone has that luxury.

    Nope! Lol. I'm very against having an outdoor cat. It just worries me too much and it seems dangerous for the non-working house cat. Too many horror stories. I won't do it.

    For cats, you want wet food and the most meat you can get. I have heard AWESOME things about Innova canned. My cats are on Purina because I'm poor... So I can't give a whole lot of advice here.

    With one cat, it won't be an issue. I have to struggle with 4 and I keep the smell away. I have two litter boxes. I dip them twice a day. I use Arm and Hammer litter and cat litter deodorizer and my house smells just fine. If you do the same as me, with one cat, you will NEVER smell it. Lol. Also lidded litter boxes are your best bet. My litter boxes are igloo shaped and they have a little ramp tunnel that the cats climb into to get to the litter. Keeps most of the litter from their feet off of my floor.

    Basically the same as with dogs. Kittens are cute, but little terrors... You can raise them how you like, but that doesn't guarantee a personality that may fit what you want. I would go with adopting an adult... Everyone always wants a kitten and there are SO many adult cats out there that need homes that you could probably find exactly what you want in looks and personality and have it guaranteed.
     
  9. ~Tucker&Me~

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    I am just going to second going the adult route... Especially if you are going rescue. It's very difficult, IME, to judge how a kitten will act when it gets older. If you have a 'type' of cat you like, an adult is a much safer bet.

    We adopted my cat from the shelter as a 6 year old and it was awesome - we knew her personality and it only got better once she settled in at home :D
     
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    I have 2 cats, both a little over a year old. I was always a "dog person" too but have become quite fond of cats since getting these two. :)

    Toys and a scratching post are a requirement. Specifics will depend on your cat. I know some cats are happy to spend most of the day laying in sunbeams on a bed or on the floor. I have very high-energy cats, so I make sure they have a few catnip mice or other small toys (tiny tennis balls, ping pong balls, crumpled up paper, etc.) scattered about for them to bat around. They also chase each other around a lot (we actually got the second cat as a playmate for the first, because he was so high energy).

    Mine also have a 7 ft tall cat tree, but like I said, they're very high energy, and love to jump and climb. Not every cat needs this (but some sort of cat tree/scratching post is nice to give them a "perch").

    I also recommend clipping nails regularly, or getting nail caps if you're worried about them scratching furniture (or the dogs!) We trim our cats' nails whenever they start getting sharp. How often will depend on how much your cats use their scratching post. We have one that seems to need a trimming once a week minimum, and another that needs them every few weeks.

    Mine just run loose in the condo, although we did close off certain rooms when they were kittens (like the computer room). There are things they will get into so you'll need to cat-proof a bit or restrict their access to different rooms when gone.

    Things to watch out for are food, strings/rope/dangly things/belts, thin cords (like headphones), and anything really breakable (mine occasionally knock things over). But this will again depend on the cat. My male cat doesn't really mess with much other than food, my female cat tries to eat tissues, bathrobe belts, shoelaces, anything like that, so we have to keep lids on all our trashcans and put away clothes with ropes or belts on them. I have found giving her a tough piece of chicken jerky once a day reduces her desire to chew. I can safely leave tissue boxes out if she's had her chew for the day.

    One important thing to remember with cats is, unlike dogs, things up off the ground may not be safe. They can get into all sorts of places, even cabinets. We have baby locks on all our cabinets (even the top level ones) for this reason.

    One of my cats is actually nervous about being outdoors. The other I occasionally take out on a harness and leash, and let her chase leaves and bugs and stuff. Not often though, as she really seems pretty content inside. They do come out on the balcony with me sometimes as long as I can carefully watch them.

    If you do take your cat out on a leash, I'd recommend a cat harness over a collar. Their tracheas are delicate.

    I've found the brands I use for my cats ended up often overlapping with my dog. Moisture is key with cats since many don't drink enough water (they're descended from desert-dwelling felines), and unlike the opportunistic carnivore that is the dog, cats are obligate carnivores. High meat-based protein is super important for cats and some do very poorly on grains. I'd recommend either a grain-free canned, or raw diet (or some combination of the two). I do canned in the morning and raw at night mixed with a little canned for my cats.

    Change it frequently! :) I clean the litterboxes once a day, or every other day minimum. Also I recommend one litterbox per cat (i.e. if you have two cats, you need two litterboxes, rather than just one). A good food will make a BIG difference in the smell of their poop. Mine smelled much worse when they ate kibble for a brief period of time. I don't really notice litterbox smell much at all except when I'm right there cleaning it, and even then it's not too bad. I also use covered boxes, to keep them from kicking litter out and keep the dog out. I've also found a good brand of litter (I use World's Best) can make a difference as you end up having to do full box changes less. I do a full litter change if the box starts to smell even with daily cleanings, and this happens maybe once a month or so?

    Everyone else already covered this. Same with dogs really. I got kittens, and really enjoyed them, but boy they were a lot of work. Super hyper (although I have particularly high-energy cats, as I said), chewed everything...still less work than a puppy though, especially since most kittens seem to come already litterbox-trained. A kitten might get along with existing housemates (such as dogs) easier, but getting an adult cat that is comfortable with dogs is another good way to go. Really either is a viable option...shelters usually have ample numbers of both. If you want to get a kitten, a good time to adopt (at least in my area) seems to be the summer. Many shelters have kitten overflow at that time. Any time of year is good for adult cats.
     
  11. Disclaimer: This has all probably been said already. I didn't read most of the responses.

    1. How do you keep a cat inside and happy? And without tearing up everything without declawing it?

    I give them plenty of access to windows and (their favorite) the glass door that opens into the backyard. They love laying by the glass and soaking up the sun. Mine have always been perfectly happy to stay inside. Siamese cats are notoriously fancy. lol My female would probably die if she had to walk outside. And keeping them happy isn't too difficult. Give them things to climb and scratch, get toys they like and play with them, let them lay on top of your head and suffocate you.... lol Plus some toys that they can play with on their own. There's lots of good stuff out there these days.

    As for tearing up everything, it just takes a little bit of work. When they started to try to scratch my couches as kittens, I would just move scratching posts in front of the arm rests. It got them back to scratching on what I wanted them scratching. Then I just gradually started moving it away from the couch. Mine were never much trouble beyond that.

    2. Do you just... leave them loose while you're gone? You don't have to crate them or make a cage for them? I'm so worried they'll get into everything...

    When they were younger, I would leave them in the bathroom while I was gone. Now that they're older, I leave them loose. The only thing is that if I leave food out to defrost for the dogs while I'm gone, they will get into it. lol

    3. What do you do for outdoor time? Do you give them outdoor time?

    Mine don't get any outdoor time.

    4. Food- in general is a good brand of dog food going to make a good brand of cat food?

    Most of the time. Like others have said, it's important that you keep cats hydrated. They won't drink enough water. So if you don't feed raw, I would feed a good canned food or soak their dry food in water.

    5. Litterbox and smell- how do you keep the house from smelling? I've changed shelter litterboxes and they SMELLED bad. I don't want my house to smell like dog or cat.

    Partly diet. A raw fed cat doesn't really stink up the litterbox, and they have really tiny poops. A high quality canned food will smell a little worse, dry food a little worse than that. But crappy dry food and crappy canned food will stink up your entire house.
    The other part is finding cat litter that you like. I don't like the smell of corn litter. I prefer Arm & Hammer. But that will just take a little time on your part, trying out a couple until you find something you like.

    6. Pros and cons of adopting a kitten versus adult. I almost wonder if it might be better to find an adult for adoption that has a good, easy personality.

    This has been covered pretty well from what I saw. I would go with an adult. You don't have the evil kitten stage where they get into everything and cause more trouble than you would believe possible, and you can find one that is good with dogs and has a personality that you like.

    I have two cats, and I absolutely love them. AND they're useful. They kill just about anything. Roaches, snakes, spiders, mice... Having a cat when I lived in a college town was sooo nice. My apartment was the only one in the complex that never had any critters, I think. lol

    Plus.... They're cuuuuute!
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    Or two. Or three. It's hard to stop with just one...

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  12. ~Dixie's_Mom~

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    Omg mhmr....omg. You're killing me! Is Raja good w/the cats? When we left Violet with a dog sitter for a few days, they had a cat, and they were fine together. She even played with it a little. But I still am very leary. I don't think a kitten would work at all, but an adult cat could work. My dad says no more pets, but still. Hahaha!!
     
  13. Depends what you mean. She does love them and gets along with them just fine.
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    But I would never fully trust her. She's never shown ANY sign that she might do anything to them. But I just can't forget that she has a ton of prey drive. Same with her around small dogs. She plays with them just fine and has never done anything wrong. But I will always be mindful of her when she's with them juuust in case. Because if one of them should take off running and her prey drive kicks in, I'd hate for her to get carried away and have things end up badly.

    ETA: I crate Raja when I leave anyhow, so it's not something I really have to worry about. And I don't watch her like a hawk at home. But for instance when Conan starts playing with the dogs and running up and down the stairs with them, I kind of make sure to walk over and keep an eye on things. Just stuff like that.
     
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    Thanks for all the replies! I'm still undecided about it but it's definitely good to learn some more. I really know nothing about cats at all. Dogs seem easier. :p
     
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    Please dont feed your cats any type of dog food! Cats require taurine! Dogs can make it themselves but cats need to have it added to their food! Unless your feeding whole prey or very course minces/chunky meats then you will also need to add some to every meal your cats eat.

    Also dogs should not eat cat food for long either as its too high in sodium or something along those lines!

    I have 2 indoor cats. I would not leave them alone in the living room. They have a cat room that i lock them in during night and when im out during day they have the cat room and then the hall and 2 flights of stairs to my loft bedroom (has no door) and i find that they are not destructive.

    I provide a good cat tree (a chopped up felled tree) and thats in the cat room and they love giving that a clawing!

    I feed porta 21 dry cat food as mine will not touch wet food. its grain free and i THINK its 80% meat. My cats drink alot! If my cat jumps up on my lap i hear the water slosh in his belly rofl!
     
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    Not reading the whole thread, but my brother (whom I live with) got two older kittens about 6 months ago, so here's my opinion:

    1. How do you keep a cat inside and happy? And without tearing up everything without declawing it? toys. windows. attention. a scratching post. They sleep like 3 times more than dogs, at least as adults. They're cool with chasing a toy for 10 or 15 minutes and looking out the window for an hour and sleeping and grooming themselves and eating the rest of the time. Our cats are declawed against my will, but claw covers are a good option, or just training.

    2. Do you just... leave them loose while you're gone? You don't have to crate them or make a cage for them? I'm so worried they'll get into everything...we put them in the bedroom when we're gone. The only thing they'll get into are the houseplants, anyway, but still. Growing up my older cats had the run of the house.

    3. What do you do for outdoor time? Do you give them outdoor time? these kitties do not. our kitties growing up came outside with us, they never left our porch or yard, but i wouldn't trust future cats like that.

    4. Food- in general is a good brand of dog food going to make a good brand of cat food? i think my brother feeds them wellness?

    5. Litterbox and smell- how do you keep the house from smelling? I've changed shelter litterboxes and they SMELLED bad. I don't want my house to smell like dog or cat. you change them regularly. After every poop is preferable. Keep the box in a bathroom or somewhere out of the way. I have to admit, even though my cat's box is cleaning out multiple times a day, it still smells bad when they go, and I DESPISE the deodorizer smell of the litter. It's GROSS. it smells like air freshener or power or something, but EW. I'm assuming other brands of litter don't smell like this...but my family likes this one. *gags* you can only smell it in my brother's room and right out his doorway, though.

    6. Pros and cons of adopting a kitten versus adult. I almost wonder if it might be better to find an adult for adoption that has a good, easy personality. kittens are adorable and fun and playful and get into everything. Adult cats are less work, less supervision, less exercise, and you can pick it's personality. Kittens, IMO, have a 50/50 shot of growing up into an evil nasty weird cat. Cats are either evil and nasty and weird or nice.
     
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    Super long post, sorry...

    You might also have to experiment with different types of scratchers. I learned through trial and error that my cat will only scratch the cardboard ones. Well, those and my woven storage baskets. >.<

    My cat used to be indoor/outdoor until I moved, and now I have to clip her nails. I never did when she went outside, because the climbed trees and kept them worn down. So I think with an indoor cat you need to keep an eye on their nails as they don't wear them down as fast, even with scratching posts.

    All of my cats have always just roamed around the house. I've never known anyone that crated cats. That said, it's good to have a crate and get them used to it, both for travel and in case the cat gets out. It's easier to catch an escapee if they have a familiar crate.

    Depends on the cat, and your living arrangement. My cat transitions from outdoors to indoors pretty easily (well, she's kind of an attention ***** when she's indoors LOL). In my current place, when I'm home I leave the door open so she can go out sometimes, but she isn't brave enough to go past the patio. Which is fine with me - if I thought she would go further I wouldn't let her out at all. She's a very cautious cat though - I know others that I wouldn't do this with, as they have no sense of self-preservation.

    In another place I lived I had a tiny backyard/patio that was fenced, and she went out there but never tried to climb the fence.

    Yes, wet food only is best for cats. Raw is even better. It's easier to get them eating raw if you get a kitten. Cats imprint on foods when they're young, which is why they can be such picky eaters. They literally think anything new is poison. They aren't instinctive scavengers like dogs.

    Agreed again. Scooping out the box often is best. Like 2x a day.

    You can find an adult cat that's friendly already. I've found, though, that the younger a kitten you get, the more they bond with their humans. My previous cats have all been acquired as kittens, and were all very social. My current cat was only 6 weeks when I got her - that's too young, the shelter said they were 8 weeks but there's no way, she was just too tiny. But she is the most loving, cuddly cat I've ever had, and I've heard from other people with similar experiences. She also drools all over me when I pet her because she was weaned too early. :rolleyes: So, yeah.

    Generally if you get an 8 week old kitten and give it lots of attention, it will grow up friendly and social. At least in my experience. There's not so much of the socialization needed with cats as we do with dogs.

    Also since you already have dogs, I would get either a kitten or an adult that you know has lived with dogs before. Acclimating an adult cat to dogs can be difficult if not impossible. Although with Paps you don't have quite the issue of size difference. :) A kitten will grow up with the dogs and they will probably be buddies. I didn't get Sienna until my cat was 2 years old, and they coexist, but will never play together or be very close - and Sienna loves cats, it's the cat that couldn't care less about her.
     
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    And as to general differences...

    Kittens are much easier than puppies. Cats mature faster than dogs I think. Kittens are more like small cats, whereas puppies are more helpless and require more direction, IME.

    They are more independent, as has been said, but it seems to me that dogs focus on their people and cats on their environment more. Not that cats aren't social. But to a dog, home is wherever the pack is. To a cat, home is a specific territory - we just happen to live there too.

    If I disappeared tomorrow, Sienna would be heartbroken. My cat would just be hungry. :)
    Not dogging on cats (uh, LOL), I love them and grew up with cats more than dogs. But they are definitely different animals!

    Like Barbara said, cats love windows. Cats are more visual than dogs - I think cats are more sight,sound,scent whereas dogs are scent,sight,sound (or something like that). Cats are perfectly happy to watch squirrels out the window all day, while a dog would have a nervous breakdown from not getting to chase the squirrels. All of my cats have watched TV, while I've never known a dog that had any interest for moving objects on a screen.

    That would drive me crazy, too LOL. I cat sit for a Devon Rex and he's like that. Cute but OMG. Georgette, my kitty, is needy but mostly a lap cat. She just wants to sit on or near me, and she's happy. The dog is usually the one that's all up in my business.

    None of my cats have ever been real terrors as kittens. I guess I've been lucky!

    LOL, I would much rather have a kitten than a puppy!

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    Please start a thread of Siamese & dog pics. Pan isn't yet at the point where she can cuddle with my Siamese, but they wrestle and really like each other. I absolutely adore other people's cat and dog cuddly pics.
     
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