and yes I forgot the cammera. I really need to just leave it inmy car. Im sitting for a dobe breeder I know really well. You will meet her next weekend Toller. Two red dober boys. One old man with ears and a 18month old Can Ch. Katelynne is trying to let the youngster out of his xpen right now. lol. He's kinda scared of her. Big bad dober boy is scared of the baby.