If you feel immune from BSL - List of 75 banned or restricted breeds
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So, I am assuming YOU are for BSL.
What I dont get is why there should be restrictions on certain breeds but not all? There are 5 million dog bites a year and dont tell me that ALL of them are from pit bulls and rottweilers. BSL is discrimination, plain and simple. Pointing out certain breeds while other breeds are excused.
I had a lab come after me and my dog while we were taking a walk. I had a GSD do the same thing. As well as a collie mix and an ACD on sesperate occasions. get the facts straight and stop acting like breeds used for dog fighting are the only breed that has attacked. THAT IS WRONG.
Are you saying that if a bad owner got a hold of a golden retriever, the dog would never bite under any circumstances? But if a bad owner were to get a pit bull, the dog will turn into an unstable killer? So there for only certain breeds need restrictions. BULL.
What I dont get is why there should be restrictions on certain breeds but not all? There are 5 million dog bites a year and dont tell me that ALL of them are from pit bulls and rottweilers. BSL is discrimination, plain and simple. Pointing out certain breeds while other breeds are excused.
I had a lab come after me and my dog while we were taking a walk. I had a GSD do the same thing. As well as a collie mix and an ACD on sesperate occasions. get the facts straight and stop acting like breeds used for dog fighting are the only breed that has attacked. THAT IS WRONG.
Are you saying that if a bad owner got a hold of a golden retriever, the dog would never bite under any circumstances? But if a bad owner were to get a pit bull, the dog will turn into an unstable killer? So there for only certain breeds need restrictions. BULL.
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So, I am assuming YOU are for BSL.
What I dont get is why there should be restrictions on certain breeds but not all? There are 5 million dog bites a year and dont tell me that ALL of them are from pit bulls and rottweilers. BSL is discrimination, plain and simple. Pointing out certain breeds while other breeds are excused.
I had a lab come after me and my dog while we were taking a walk. I had a GSD do the same thing. As well as a collie mix and an ACD on sesperate occasions. get the facts straight and stop acting like breeds used for dog fighting are the only breed that has attacked. THAT IS WRONG.
Are you saying that if a bad owner got a hold of a golden retriever, the dog would never bite under any circumstances? But if a bad owner were to get a pit bull, the dog will turn into an unstable killer? So there for only certain breeds need restrictions. BULL.
What I dont get is why there should be restrictions on certain breeds but not all? There are 5 million dog bites a year and dont tell me that ALL of them are from pit bulls and rottweilers. BSL is discrimination, plain and simple. Pointing out certain breeds while other breeds are excused.
I had a lab come after me and my dog while we were taking a walk. I had a GSD do the same thing. As well as a collie mix and an ACD on sesperate occasions. get the facts straight and stop acting like breeds used for dog fighting are the only breed that has attacked. THAT IS WRONG.
Are you saying that if a bad owner got a hold of a golden retriever, the dog would never bite under any circumstances? But if a bad owner were to get a pit bull, the dog will turn into an unstable killer? So there for only certain breeds need restrictions. BULL.
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I do realize that very much so. My point is not the BREED. My point is that any breed can have a tendency to be DA. Since when does a dog HAVE to like another dog. PLEASE! Dogs are individuals.
I was just listing my personal experiences. And those are the particular dogs that have come after us. I will go on to say that a pittie snapped at us once while we were at a dog park (long time ago, he was 10 weeks old). To that list you can add a toy poodle, chihuahua, retriever of some sort, yet another lab, and mutts.
But why are some dogs targetted by BSL but others are not? Wait, I know, its because other breeds are perfect to the media and publics eyes. They would never bite or dislike another dog.
I was just listing my personal experiences. And those are the particular dogs that have come after us. I will go on to say that a pittie snapped at us once while we were at a dog park (long time ago, he was 10 weeks old). To that list you can add a toy poodle, chihuahua, retriever of some sort, yet another lab, and mutts.
But why are some dogs targetted by BSL but others are not? Wait, I know, its because other breeds are perfect to the media and publics eyes. They would never bite or dislike another dog.
You know things have reach a level of insanity when you can post 300 examples of well-trained, stable, good examples of any given breed and someone will come back with saying those dogs are abberitions and the one anomoly that ends up in the news is "how all those dogs are."
And because it seems that still more people can't grasp what BSL actually means, do have any idea how hard it is to get a CGC cert. when the city you live in will not permit your dog to be inside the city limits? Denver and Ontario both have "kill on sight" laws in place right now. Or when training clubs have bought into, or been forced into compliance, with those same laws and are unable to allow the dogs to go to the classes and tests? You might be able to get a "vicious dog" label withdrawn by passing a CGC, but you cannot lift a breed ban. The "VD" label applies to that specific animal. Breed bans affect every single member of that breed. I feel like a broken record saying this but it's apparently not sinking in or at least understood.
I would be more in favor of "vicious dog" laws, as they at least provide A) an avenue to have that label withdrawn and B) allows for the actually dangerous animals to be the ones dealt with, instead of lumping those under the same label and restrictions with dogs who have never anything worse than chew up a shoe.
We already have perfectly good laws regarding "menace" dogs. We don't need to be wasting taxpayer's money going after innocent animals. How many man hours and thousands of dollars of resources have been dedicated to this ridiculous BSL trend? How much better off do you think communities as a whole would be if those same resources were used to actually do the job they were intended for in the first place?
And because it seems that still more people can't grasp what BSL actually means, do have any idea how hard it is to get a CGC cert. when the city you live in will not permit your dog to be inside the city limits? Denver and Ontario both have "kill on sight" laws in place right now. Or when training clubs have bought into, or been forced into compliance, with those same laws and are unable to allow the dogs to go to the classes and tests? You might be able to get a "vicious dog" label withdrawn by passing a CGC, but you cannot lift a breed ban. The "VD" label applies to that specific animal. Breed bans affect every single member of that breed. I feel like a broken record saying this but it's apparently not sinking in or at least understood.
I would be more in favor of "vicious dog" laws, as they at least provide A) an avenue to have that label withdrawn and B) allows for the actually dangerous animals to be the ones dealt with, instead of lumping those under the same label and restrictions with dogs who have never anything worse than chew up a shoe.
We already have perfectly good laws regarding "menace" dogs. We don't need to be wasting taxpayer's money going after innocent animals. How many man hours and thousands of dollars of resources have been dedicated to this ridiculous BSL trend? How much better off do you think communities as a whole would be if those same resources were used to actually do the job they were intended for in the first place?
Don't forget the definition of insanity: Doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different response
That one bears repeating here, lol!
And so does this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk9JGYK7H-A
That one bears repeating here, lol!
And so does this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fk9JGYK7H-A
I still dont understand how DOG fighting has anything to do with BSL. They were bred to fight DOGS not humans, D.O.G (you know the creatures that stand of four legs, vary in size and have been alongside man for thousands of years), is it that hard to understand ...
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In my town, and I'd say probably ALL towns in the US have vicious dog laws. Laws that have restrictions on dogs who have previously proven that they are dangerous. For example, a dog who bites or snaps at someone and is reported to animal control. That dog is labeled vicious for its actions. So it makes absolutely no sense to label MY pit bull or ANYONES pit bull vicious for simply being alive.
Do you know how many pit bulls live in the united states? A LOT. And I can tell you right now that most of them haven't done a **** thing wrong. Its those few bad apples and the pitties who are owned by irresponsible people who get all the attention. There are people out there who get this breed for protection and train them to be aggressive toward people. I've seen it in my own neighborhood.
Do you know how many pit bulls live in the united states? A LOT. And I can tell you right now that most of them haven't done a **** thing wrong. Its those few bad apples and the pitties who are owned by irresponsible people who get all the attention. There are people out there who get this breed for protection and train them to be aggressive toward people. I've seen it in my own neighborhood.
Well, since the BSL nuts don't understand logic or rational thinking, or even the most rudimentary concepts of cause and effect (in other words, they aren't as smart as my Fila, lol), I am going to start using tactics they can understand.
If you hate the American Pit Bull Terrier breed, you are un-American and love terrorists
If you hate the American Pit Bull Terrier breed, you are un-American and love terrorists
Oh geez.....wait until Baha sees this!
You may be a schoolteacher, but that doesn't mean anything. Many school teachers are pedophiles who molest and rape their students. Would my children benefit from being around them too? Many schoolteachers do drugs and have been arrested for possession and dealing. Would my children benefit from them to?
I'm sorry, but someone spewing hatred and lies based on ignorance and closed-minded beliefs is NOT who will be teaching my children. Well, people like you will be teaching my children why they must educate themselves, learn to listen to others, learn to debate others, and learn to stand firm in their own beliefs and to exercise their given rights so they don't end up like you.
You may be a schoolteacher, but that doesn't mean anything. Many school teachers are pedophiles who molest and rape their students. Would my children benefit from being around them too? Many schoolteachers do drugs and have been arrested for possession and dealing. Would my children benefit from them to?
I'm sorry, but someone spewing hatred and lies based on ignorance and closed-minded beliefs is NOT who will be teaching my children. Well, people like you will be teaching my children why they must educate themselves, learn to listen to others, learn to debate others, and learn to stand firm in their own beliefs and to exercise their given rights so they don't end up like you.
If a CGC is the holy grail of dog ownerhsip, then why did I euthanize a Dachshund that bit it's 5th person (the last being a 5-year-old boy to whom she gave over 80 stitches in his head, face, and neck)....because that dog had it's CGC. I guess I should've let him live and just demand that my "pit bull" owning clients euthanize their dogs instead.
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