"If it's not AKC, it's a mutt"

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  1. Gempress

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    I was walking Zeus at a nearby playground, and a young girl (about 12) and her mother came up to see Zeus. The girl asked what kind of dog he was. I said a blackmouth cur. She said she's never seen one in dog shows before. I said that they weren't an AKC breed. The mom smiled and said, "Oh, so he's a mutt. If it's not in the AKC, it's a mutt." Then they walked off before I could say anything.

    Now, I couldn't care less what these people think of Zeus. But that attitude amazes me. And what's sad is that she's not the only person I met who thinks that way.

    I know it's only ignorance, but it still bothers me. Anybody else encounter anything like this? Or have any ideas as to what I can say to people who think that way?
     
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    I think there is a lot of reg that are bad and dont mean much. But just because you dog isnt AKC doesnt mean hes a mutt. What is he reg under?
     
  3. tessa_s212

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    I have met a few people like this. And it frustrates me how every one thinks AKC is some kind of god.
     
  4. Gempress

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    Blackmouth cur is UKC. But wow, going by that woman's logic, I was just thinking how many dozens of breeds out there are really "mutts". Catahoula leopard dogs, Filas, APBTs, etc.....
     
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    It's just an honest mistake, but a polite woman would have simply nodded. Maybe she thought your dog was a mutt and you were a lying braggart, but unless she's got some secret trauma about mislabelled dog breeds, why is it important enough to be rude to you? Though to be fair, a breed name with the word 'cur' in it is going to confuse people.
     
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    "It takes 42 muscles to frown.... 22 to smile... but only 4 to extend your middle finger."

    ;)

    Dog snobs are the lamest kind of snobs out there AND usually rather easy to mess with too. BONUS! I mean, how can a person be snobby about DOGS?
     
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    Also, just for the record... I am none too pleased with the context in which the word "mutt" is being used here. You are making it sound like MUTTS are bad things.

    LOL


    Poke...Poke.... :)
     
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    I can't remember anyone saying such a thing as that to me, but I have noticed that some purebred owners will act as if they are higher than a mutt owner and their dog. I have a purebred and a mutt and they're awesome dogs. I think it's stupid when people act higher than others and constantly brag.
     
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    Stupid question, but what does UKC stand for? I never even knew that some dogs are not recognized by the AKC but are recognized by the UKC... I feel less stupid now :D
     
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    Ouch! Quit poking me, or I'll tell Grammy on you! :D

    LoL, nah, I have nothing against mutts. I don't know why people seem to think the word "mutt" is derrogatory. Oh well, I'll start using the more PC "mixed breed."

    Fran, I believe the UKC stands for United Kennel Club. I'm not sure; I don't know much about it.
     
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    A couple of years ago we were at a hotel. We had Maggie with us. Another woman was there with her toy poodle. Maggie wanted to see the poodle. This woman yanks her dog by the leash and does this snarl at Maggie and says "humph". I looked at Maggie and said "Maggie get away from that dog, it might give you fleas". Needless to say the woman stormed off. Samething happend with my fox terrier years ago and another toy poodle owner. I can't stand uppity dog owners. A lady at petsmart thought Brutus was a mixed breed. But a pretty mixed breed. lol
     
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    Bites tounge.... ;)

    Ummm, NO. I can assure you that if it is "PC", I am against it. LOL

    They are MUTTS and we LOVE them.

    /rant
     
  13. tessa_s212

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    UKC does stand for United Kennel Club. It is a reputable registry just as the AKC. It holds its own Conformatin shows, Agility trials, Obedience trials, Weight Pulls, and even some kind of ratting comptitions.
     
  14. yuckaduck

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    Three main registry's who are equal to each other:

    UKC united kennel club
    AKC american kennel club
    CKC canadian kennel club

    be sure not to mix CKC with continental kennel club....otherwise known as the con club.
     
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    Yes, and the woman I encountered believed that ALL dogs not AKC registered were mutts. She approached me to compliment my cocker, and asked if Carly was a Shih Tzu. I said yes, and she asked what kind of a dog I was fostering at the time -Ginger, if any of you remember- and I said we weren't sure but probably a pit bull mix. She wrinkled he nose and said 'Oh, a mutt. I'd keep her away from my purebred dogs if they were as pretty as yours. If its not AKC, I won't own it' I starred at her with my mouth open before I finally said that Carly wasn't AKC, that she was a foster that I adopted, and while Maddie has the papers TO be AKC registered I never sent them in, so she isn't registered :p She relized what she said wasn't quite right and left quickly.

    Edit: The sad thing is I've met a woman that was convinced wolves are mutts because there isn't any way of tracking how there bred :rolleyes:
     
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    All I can say is I can't WAIT for the day when I encounter one of these people in a store. Is that the same thing as trolling? LOL
     
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    For starters, dogs never started out as purebred dogs that we have now. All dogs started as Mongrels, or some may say "Mutts" or "races" of dogs. All purebred breeding means is that you have mixed breeds and have inbred until you get a desired look and drive. I could start a new purebred dog and register with a kennel club as soon as I can show on paper/generations etc. that I have created this. Purebred breeding has only been around for about 100 years, and we are seeing the genetic hardship this has put on dogs...it's truly quite sad.

    So, basically all a purebred dog is...an "Inbred Mixed breed". There are a few "natural" breeds in the world and some of these have never been recognized by kennel clubs...and they would actually be natural purebred dogs and much more pure than the AKC or CKC purebred dogs.

    Just because a breed is recognized by a kennel club does not mean it's not a mixed breed...99.9% of purebred dogs are mixed, mixed, mixed mongrels.

    I truly get offended when show people "think" purebred dogs are better than Mongrels....when I know that Mongrels are much better and have a better gene pool. I am not a fan of most purebred breeding, especially in breeds with few founder dogs. Most people talking about dogs without a pedigree refer to them as "Mutts"...almost in a sneering manner. I started referring to my purebred dogs as "inbred Mutts" just to counteract this.:)

    There have been cases in the past where purebred breeders in order to save their breed have discreetly done some cross breeding to create a larger gene pool.. It's easy to fool the kennel clubs. This has been done with Siberian Huskies, Collies, Shelties etc.
     
  18. UKC is the United Kennel Club http://www.ukcdogs.com

    UKC is the second oldest dog registry in the US, not far behind the AKC. They do recognize many breeds which the AKC does not.
     
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    yes and I am always shocked that the Uk kennel club doesnt have half of the breeds that some other regesterys have
     
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    Your breed is better off being recognized by a more lenient kennel club rather than AKC or Canadian Kennel Club. These 2 clubs scare the heck out of me.
     

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