I got to CL to look for a crate...
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Yes, but not now that she has my number - that ship has sailed. We may have another local person who can go get the dog, but she hasn't responded to emails yet. I'm going to be out of town at dockdogs regionals this weekend, so my friend (who tried and was googled) is going to coordinate anything. One of those "if it was meant to be it'll happen" sort of deals now. 
Most people don't know those contracts aren't that legally binding. I think they're doing a pretty good job at making sure it goes to a good home... Usually $80 is enough to ward off the people that get a dog they can't afford, so they have that down...but I don't tho k going through all the trouble you are going through is worth it as they're not doing THAT bad of a job. But, you said agree to disagree I just wanted to out my 2 cents out there...
She is definitely a cutie.
She is definitely a cutie.
Honestly, I'd rather see them asking a tooon of questions about the home and *not* having a contract than not asking *any* questions and having a contract.
Seems to be moot now - someone I knew who was interested in keeping the dog herself got an email back that the woman is holding onto the dog instead because she had too many inquiries from "dog flippers". This could be a great thing, or it could mean that she'll be rehomed in 6 months when she's "too much" again. :\
Seems to be moot now - someone I knew who was interested in keeping the dog herself got an email back that the woman is holding onto the dog instead because she had too many inquiries from "dog flippers". This could be a great thing, or it could mean that she'll be rehomed in 6 months when she's "too much" again. :\
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So sad. I wish the best for tthat Puppy.
CL is an inappropriate place to advertise dogs for GOOD homes. The likelihood of a good placement off CL is very low no matter how much screening you do.
I hold everyone to the same standard. That's part of the problem...people lower their standards on a case by case basis.
CL is an inappropriate place to advertise dogs for GOOD homes. The likelihood of a good placement off CL is very low no matter how much screening you do.
I hold everyone to the same standard. That's part of the problem...people lower their standards on a case by case basis.
Honestly they may not be a terrible person, could you as a trainer re-contact and offer training to help her keep the dog peacefully?
I have used CL many times to reach out and network my own foster dogs. I also screen and will not rehome to a home that does not agree the dog returns to me. I don't charge anything for fosters either so I suppose that is even worse for some people on the outside looking in.
I think it's silly to believe you cannot find a good home on an online newspaper when you have someone like Erin, a person we're all cheering on as the best option for this pup, finding it on CL.
I do hope the pup is in good hands, I think contacting, offering help, and bringing light to the breeder is the best option right now.
I have used CL many times to reach out and network my own foster dogs. I also screen and will not rehome to a home that does not agree the dog returns to me. I don't charge anything for fosters either so I suppose that is even worse for some people on the outside looking in.
I think it's silly to believe you cannot find a good home on an online newspaper when you have someone like Erin, a person we're all cheering on as the best option for this pup, finding it on CL.
I do hope the pup is in good hands, I think contacting, offering help, and bringing light to the breeder is the best option right now.
I know I'm in the super small minority but I'll go ahead and add a few things.
First on craigslist when you text someone, especially on weekdays you text then leave it. You don't text then call. If they had an email and a phone # ok. Email could have been blocked so that is an ok but if you are calling AND texting the same phone its a bit much.
Then when you are told no and you mention friends or have friends call for you I mean that sounds off. I don't blame them for saying no. while you have to be safe about who you meet so does the seller. If you come across as dodgy and pushy how do they know that isn't how you'll be when they meet up? I personally don't sell to females anymore just because of the sheer number of crazies I've dealt with. So I don't blame anyone for being cautious.
Also I showed that dog to people who like dogs but don't know breeds and they ALL said they thought it was a shepherd mix and would definitely not pay $80 for. And despite what you know the breed is worth $80 is quite a bit for a craigslist dog.
And I understand it didn't work out but this sounds like someone who does care about the dog. They aren't giving the dog to any schmuck with $80. If they were you would have her now.
First on craigslist when you text someone, especially on weekdays you text then leave it. You don't text then call. If they had an email and a phone # ok. Email could have been blocked so that is an ok but if you are calling AND texting the same phone its a bit much.
Then when you are told no and you mention friends or have friends call for you I mean that sounds off. I don't blame them for saying no. while you have to be safe about who you meet so does the seller. If you come across as dodgy and pushy how do they know that isn't how you'll be when they meet up? I personally don't sell to females anymore just because of the sheer number of crazies I've dealt with. So I don't blame anyone for being cautious.
Also I showed that dog to people who like dogs but don't know breeds and they ALL said they thought it was a shepherd mix and would definitely not pay $80 for. And despite what you know the breed is worth $80 is quite a bit for a craigslist dog.
And I understand it didn't work out but this sounds like someone who does care about the dog. They aren't giving the dog to any schmuck with $80. If they were you would have her now.
I never said they didn't care about her - I think they do, maybe not the way many of us care about dogs but they are at least not dumping her - just that their lack of screening means the dog is at risk. Yes, this person is way better than a ton out there, but that doesn't say a whole heck of a lot.
I text'd once and then called once. That's it. None of the other people I mentioned were "calling for me", they too, wanted to see the pup in a safe place and kept me in the loop since they heard about her from me. *One* of those people would've brought her to me, the rest were either interested themselves or would've fostered her themselves. And yes, I totally understand them turning me down - surprised me since just before it was "if you pay the $80, sure" and "oh and sign a contract", but it does sound sketchy if you don't know rescue or anything except pet homes.
Adrianne, the issue isn't apparently with the puppy, the person I texted with said she was having personal issues s/he didn't want to detail and thus wanted to rehome the pup. Not much I can do to help with that. :\
I text'd once and then called once. That's it. None of the other people I mentioned were "calling for me", they too, wanted to see the pup in a safe place and kept me in the loop since they heard about her from me. *One* of those people would've brought her to me, the rest were either interested themselves or would've fostered her themselves. And yes, I totally understand them turning me down - surprised me since just before it was "if you pay the $80, sure" and "oh and sign a contract", but it does sound sketchy if you don't know rescue or anything except pet homes.
Adrianne, the issue isn't apparently with the puppy, the person I texted with said she was having personal issues s/he didn't want to detail and thus wanted to rehome the pup. Not much I can do to help with that. :\
Yeah, the rescue I fostered for placed almost all their dogs through craigslist ads. And we had few returns and few dumped at the shelter (they all left chipped and it was in close cooperation with the shelter so they notified the directors immediately)
Craigslist just means you have to screen heavily. But you need to screen heavily regardless of how the dog is advertised. For what it's worth, I found Strider in a craigslist ad advertising service dog prospects. He saved my life, and because of his success the folks he came from were able to start a nonprofit service dog org training borzois to assist veterans. So... pretty awesome for a craigslist ad beginning. They didn't just fling their puppies out to whoever replied. They screened heavily and the puppies went to homes that legitimately needed them and were good homes.
Craigslist just means you have to screen heavily. But you need to screen heavily regardless of how the dog is advertised. For what it's worth, I found Strider in a craigslist ad advertising service dog prospects. He saved my life, and because of his success the folks he came from were able to start a nonprofit service dog org training borzois to assist veterans. So... pretty awesome for a craigslist ad beginning. They didn't just fling their puppies out to whoever replied. They screened heavily and the puppies went to homes that legitimately needed them and were good homes.
I have never placed a dog in Kansas, so I don't know WTF is wrong with this state either lol. The foster before Tango went to Oklahoma. I did have a couple people from training think about taking him, but none o them actually followed through. One has a tripod pom and she was wanting him because he's a tripod and the same size, but she changed her mind.
Surprise!
It's a small world isn't it? One I don't appreciate you jumping to conclusions. Am I having personal issues? Yes, I sure am. My father is extremely ill and a dialysis patient, is that any of your business or anyone else outside my family? Nope.
I struggled with letting Emma go, but the breed is more than I can handle right now. I've owned the breed before and I KNOW the breed and I wasn't able to provide the right home for her right now.
I had Emma posted several times, and spoke with several people in regards to adopting her. I did not want her to end up in a bad situation or be trained and resold.
Secondly how can you sit her and say you wanted what's best for the puppy yet admit you'd lie to someone? If you'll lie about your intentions with a puppy what else will you lie about?
We purchased Emma from a back yard breeder in NC, her mother was up for sale before the puppies even went to new homes. I've got photos of the parents, and since you seem to be some sort of online dog god perhaps you seen them listed on kijiji. The ad with the mother in mud and father on a chain? Yep, that would be Emma's parents. At the time I was in the situation to take on a Mali puppy and I didn't realize how bad the breeder was until I made the almost two hour drive to see her.
I'm just amazed how easily you could judge me and how easily you admit you could lie to me just to get your hands on a puppy.
The adoption fee was never a issue for me, I paid more than a small $80 fee for her but wanted what was BEST for her. She ended up in a good loving home, and I took my time trying to read people (notice I turned you down apparently). I'm not even sure who you are, I had so many calls texts and e-mails in regards to Emma.
SO just for future reference make sure you don't blab your mouth about something you have no idea about, not to mention on a public chat forum easily found.
It's a small world isn't it? One I don't appreciate you jumping to conclusions. Am I having personal issues? Yes, I sure am. My father is extremely ill and a dialysis patient, is that any of your business or anyone else outside my family? Nope.
I struggled with letting Emma go, but the breed is more than I can handle right now. I've owned the breed before and I KNOW the breed and I wasn't able to provide the right home for her right now.
I had Emma posted several times, and spoke with several people in regards to adopting her. I did not want her to end up in a bad situation or be trained and resold.
Secondly how can you sit her and say you wanted what's best for the puppy yet admit you'd lie to someone? If you'll lie about your intentions with a puppy what else will you lie about?
We purchased Emma from a back yard breeder in NC, her mother was up for sale before the puppies even went to new homes. I've got photos of the parents, and since you seem to be some sort of online dog god perhaps you seen them listed on kijiji. The ad with the mother in mud and father on a chain? Yep, that would be Emma's parents. At the time I was in the situation to take on a Mali puppy and I didn't realize how bad the breeder was until I made the almost two hour drive to see her.
I'm just amazed how easily you could judge me and how easily you admit you could lie to me just to get your hands on a puppy.
The adoption fee was never a issue for me, I paid more than a small $80 fee for her but wanted what was BEST for her. She ended up in a good loving home, and I took my time trying to read people (notice I turned you down apparently). I'm not even sure who you are, I had so many calls texts and e-mails in regards to Emma.
SO just for future reference make sure you don't blab your mouth about something you have no idea about, not to mention on a public chat forum easily found.
It appears it's a very small world, I am in fact the one you tried to lie to. Emma was never in any bad situation nor was I needing to get rid of her quickly. Did I post on a few websites about her? Yes, I did. Not everyone uses craigslist or hoobly.
I'm not a fool when it comes to Malis, I know the training and exercise they require. So when things turned bad for me with a few issues I knew I needed to find her a good home that could provide the care. If you had taken the time to read my posts, I did ask people to only reply if they had experience with the breed. If I gave anyone a second thought in adopting her while talking on the phone OR texting I would ask those questions, experience..plans for her etc.
If I was so eager to get rid of her, why did I not give her up to you or your friends? As you notice you started this little thread in June, it is now July and Emma has JUST been placed into a loving home.
I do appreciate your concern, but please know FACTS before ASSUming things.
I'm not a fool when it comes to Malis, I know the training and exercise they require. So when things turned bad for me with a few issues I knew I needed to find her a good home that could provide the care. If you had taken the time to read my posts, I did ask people to only reply if they had experience with the breed. If I gave anyone a second thought in adopting her while talking on the phone OR texting I would ask those questions, experience..plans for her etc.
If I was so eager to get rid of her, why did I not give her up to you or your friends? As you notice you started this little thread in June, it is now July and Emma has JUST been placed into a loving home.
I do appreciate your concern, but please know FACTS before ASSUming things.
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