I don't really get it.

Discussion in 'The Breeding Ground' started by Whisper, Jul 10, 2006.

  1. Chrissy&B

    Chrissy&B New Member

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    I have to say that when I'm looking for a new pup, I always go to a breeder that shows his dogs. Why? Because that way I know that the dogs he breeds are good examples of the breed and more importantly, they're well socialized with great temperaments. I am showing my Chihuahua and believe me that if he was showing any signs of aggression he'd be sent out of the ring. The same goes for his breeder's dogs (where I bought him). I have seen too many badly bred Chihuahuas that are nervous and very aggressive, not to mention that they look nothing like the breed anyway, so believe me that I'm always going to buy from a reputable breeder that shows his dogs......
     
  2. Boxerowner

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    Fantastic post!

    I have seen a lot of abuse at shows.
     
  3. Squidbert

    Squidbert Scum scum scum scum..SCUM

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    Agreed! Fantastic post Wolfsoul.. What I've been trying to get across but somehow wasn't able to.. :)
     
  4. JFrick

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    Exactly. That's what all my ranting and raving was about in the other thread about ethics...I don't get why people think that a dog is only worth owning if it's a "champion".
     
  5. I could be wrong but I don't think people were saying that dogs were not worth owning if they weren't champions. I think they were saying that you should not breed them if they weren't champions (which I disagree with). But I know lots of breeders that show their dogs and are very responsible and (since we have been using this word so much), "ethical" that own non-purebred dogs or dogs that are "not up to standard". But like I said, I never read ALL the stuff in the other thread, so I could be wrong about what people are thinking.

    Another thing I would like to point out (because I have seen a lot of people JUST ask if the dog is registered), is that even if a dog is registered it does not guarantee that it is purebred. A breeder needs to have the whole package, like everything that was posted in the other thread. If they JUST register their dogs and do nothing else, I would never buy I dog from them.

    Using myself for example (NOT SAYING THAT I HAVE OR WILL EVER DO THIS) but I breed Pomeranians & Chihuahuas. I could breed my female pom to my male chi and end up with a bunch of puppies that LOOK like purebred poms, and since CKC and AKC does not really regulate things I could register them by saying that it was my male pom that bred my female pom and sell registered mixed breed dogs. So people please, when you are buying a dog, just because it's registered does not mean that they are purebred. Make sure that the breeder has everything that was listed in the other post (except maybe the titling) as I do not see a need for that all the time. There are bybs out there that register their dogs and sell you a dog that may not be what you think you are getting.

    Im not sure if I should have posted this here but I had to get it off my chest.
     
  6. GSDlover_4ever

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    I'm sorry but I will NOT allow a few irresponsible people get in my way of getting a quality bred dog. Now, I am not into conformation but it goes the same way for working dogs as well. I adopt and foster dogs as well, but I also want a quality bred dog for working sports. If I am looking for a new working dog I will NOT settle for onr in the shelter, sorry.
     
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    A very close friend of mine does search and rescue. Our first attempt at training a dog from the pound for SAR didn't go so well. She was extremely adept, but had some psychological issues and would randomly snap at elderly people. Then she started snapping at other random people. We had to take her to several trainers to try and determine why, but since no one could figure out what was triggering it, or what she had been exposed to before we got her we couldn't train her out of it reliably enough to justify sending her out on the field on a search. There had to be NO chance whatsoever that she would snap at someone on a search, so she went to live with a family we knew.

    Next pound puppy was much better, an 8 week old GSD that we later realized was just happened to be from extremely high quality working lines. Talk about a coincidence! Dogs like that don't go the the pound everyday, and I'm sure that was a once in a lifetime find. She has the eyes, hips, work ethic, everything. She is now a fully certified search dog with a heart of gold.

    For work like SAR, puppy socialization, conditioning, and evaluation needs to start practically at birth. You really need to buy a puppy that has been bred from working lines, preferably SAR lines to get all the crucial ingredients that tend to be missing from most dogs, even titled champions, today. Those would be sound body and health, impeccable temperment, high reward drive, and extreme focus on human beings. They don't have to be purebred. My aunt has a GSD SAR dog, who was bred to a SAR GSD, neither were titled, I think only the male was even registered as a GSD. Her dog is probably a mix, she's blond and has long hair, one ear flops, and she tops out around 45 lbs. If she is purebred, she would never win any shows that's for sure! Was my aunt wrong to breed her? Heck no! 5 out of the six puppies are fully certified for SAR now, and Curly, the lazy one :) is a companion pet for her family. All are healthy and have great temperments. I think it would have been a good idea for her to breed her dog to even a doberman or something if it would have produced the same result, healthy, happy, hardworking SAR dogs that may save someone's life some day.

    Sorry for the long post, just had to rant about this.
     

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