I don't know if we have any members near Sudbury, but it's a Parvo epidemic...

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  1. JessLough

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    Thanks for sharing, I live in Sudbury and never pay attention to the news. Are the 3 people you know with affected dogs in Sudbury?
     
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    No, but one was visiting in Sudbury, so they can't say for sure where where it came from, as she was diagnosed once she got back home.

    And no problem, a rescue group I'm somewhat with posted it on Facebook so I just grabbed it off there
     
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    Yikes! Thanks for the heads up. I was planning on bringing my new girl with me to visit family that way. I will triple check that she has had her parvo shots first.
     
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    Were your friend's dogs vac'd or is this a resistant strain
     
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    The "new vaccine resistant strain of Parvo" is a bit of an internet myth. There is cross-immunity with different strains of Parvo, so much so that a feline distemper vaccine is effective against the "new strain" of Parvo (which affects cats as well).

    This talks in depth about the strains, new and old of Parvo:

    http://sheltermedicine.com/node/246

    Most notably:

    Also Veterinary Partners discusses it briefly here:

    http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=PRINT&A=583

    And much more detailed on this FAQ that is all about CPV-2c (the "new" strain of Parvo):

     
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    Depends who you ask. Dog was a private rehome, old owners say that yes, she had the vaccine.

    Honestly, I think this is a great example of "herd immunity". People don't get their dogs/kids/themselves vaccinated against something, because "everybody else is vaccinated, so it's not a problem". Which it's not... until there IS a problem -- then it's a huge problem.
     
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    Just because a dog has had a vaccine or multiple vaccines doesn't mean they were able to develop immunity from them. Some animals will never develop immunity, no matter how many or what kind of vaccines they are given. So it is possible that the dog did have vaccines and that was the case. Or it is possible the dog had immunity from the vaccine but for whatever reason, it was not strong enough to fight off the virus. It is also possible that the dog was never vaccinated, since it sounds like there was no record. Or it's possible the dog has some underlying immune issue that makes her more susceptible than a normal dog would be. Was a SNAP test done to verify the dog did indeed have Parvo? Or was she diagnosed based on clinical symptoms. If it's the later, the dog may not have even had Parvo, as the symptoms for it can differ greatly in individuals and are shared with many other illnesses.

    In modern times it is extremely uncommon for adult dogs to develop Parvo and when they do, it is generally a much more mild form. The reason puppies are so susceptible is because Parvo attacks the rapidly dividing cells in the still developing intestinal tract of puppies. When I had a litter with Parvo, no other dog in the household developed it, including older dogs who hadn't been vaccinated for years. I had a 16 week old fully vaccinated puppy at the house too and she also did not develop symptoms. Out of my litter of 6 puppies, one puppy didn't develop any symptoms at all and the ones who did, symptoms ranged from mild to moderate to severe to fatal.

    Parvo is everywhere, it would be impossible to control it even if everyone vaccinated. It affects puppies too young for vaccines most often (mine were 6 weeks old and had never left my house/yard), some dogs can't develop immunity from vaccines and wild animals such as wolves, coyotes and foxes are also affected by it. There is truth that vaccinating a large percentage of the population can be of benefit and that is already common practice. But Parvo is pretty much unavoidable and that is nothing new.

    From the Veterinary Partners links I posted earlier:

     
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    I am quite aware that the dog may not get immunity from the shots. I doubt that numbers of dogs this high, in one area, just didn't he the immunity.

    It may be "rare", but this is a lot of dogs of all ages dying from Parvo.

    Regardless, if you'd like to debate the usefulness of vaccines, you can make a thread for that. I posted this solely so people who are not willing to take the chance are aware.
     
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    I'm a pretty outspoken supporter of vaccinating puppies and young dogs for Parvo. Maybe you are confusing my feelings on vaccinating ferrets with my feelings on vaccinating dogs?

    Your purpose of posting this doesn't mean it can't or won't result in discussion directly related to the topic, especially if misinformation is posted such as there being a "vaccine resistant strain", which is a common misconception. It is a dog discussion forum after all :)

    Just how many is a lot of adult dogs dying of Parvo in what period of time?
     
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    I wish the news story had more hard facts. Frustrating.
     
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    No doubt!

    I was able to find a few stories from the area from last year, when it's said this started. All said that the dogs getting it were almost entirely young, unvaccinated or not fully vaccinated puppies. It said there were a "small number" of unvaccinated adults who had gotten it as well.
     
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    There's another, but I can't currently link. I'll try to remember when I'm on a computer
     
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