I see them a lot around dog events, but not so much day to day. Well..actually I see the occasional terv but there is a local breeder here. I've never seen a Mal or Groenendael in my store. I saw a Terv walking down the street in Chicago, and a Mal walking down the street in Boston. I don't usually see them out on the street around here. I actually saw a Dutchie (I know, not related) at the trade show. Love.