Hey all, hopefully this is the right forum for such a thread. How important is it to you that that breeders do things that are not necessarily bare-bones requirements to an ethical breeder? On the one hand I feel like if I'm getting an 8 week old puppy, there's still a lot of time to shape and mold the bugger, 'perfect puppy raising' for it's first few weeks aside. I'm not talking about minimal stuff like having socialization at all, keeping the puppies safe and warm, vet care etc, I'm talking about what I consider 'extras' (obviously, everyone has a different idea of 'extras' and the 'minimum'). Such as, what do you think of someone who doesn't do early neurological stimulation? Or for instance, beginning crate training/obedience training/house training. Or socializing them a lot with people, introducing them to handling/grooming, and having lots of toys in their puppy pen? Or if they don't raise their puppies in the house, even? (these are not all examples of the breeders I am looking at, just fyi). If it's a breeding/lines you really like and are overall happy and comfortable with the breeder's ability to produce great puppies and like them, would you let some things that you wish were going to take place not happen? Thanks for the input in advance, looking forward to the responses!