How does your breed rate? OFA info-

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  1. IliamnasQuest

    IliamnasQuest Loves off-leash training!

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    I pondered whether to post this here or in the dog breed area, but to me it's a breeding issue so I went with here.

    On the OFA site, there's an area where you can search statistics by breed. Go to http://www.offa.org/stats.html and scroll down to click on your breed and then share the results with us on elbow and hip dysplasia (and any others you want to share).

    Here are my breeds:

    Chows rank #1 in elbow dysplasia (47.4% abnormal results), GSD's rank 8th (19.5% abnormal results). That's a shocking amount of ED in chows .. truly sad especially given that not many breeders are doing (or admitting that they do) elbow x-rays.

    Chows rank 34th in hip dsyplasia (19.6% dysplastic), GSD's rank 54th (19% dysplastic).

    The other results are only entered into OFA if the owner submits them, so I don't feel there's a really great representation there on my breeds.

    Where do your dogs rank?

    Melanie and the gang in Alaska
     
  2. PWCorgi

    PWCorgi Priscilla Winifred Corgi

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    Pembroke welsh Corgis are ranked 45th in hip dysplasia (17.6% dysplastic)
    They're ranked 53rd in elbows (3.7%)
     
  3. It would be interesting to know how many Chows who indicate ED on film are affected by it with any sort of lameness.

    You also have to take into consideration that many people don't send in films if they look bad, so the results can be very skewed in regard to what the incidence of an issue is in the actual general population.

    Rottweilers are 29th in HD stats, with 86551 screened, of which 7.9 were rated Excellent, and 20.5 were rated dysplastic to some degree.

    Rottweilers are second behind ChowChows in the ED stats. There have been 10148 screened for elbow dysplasia. Compare this to the hip numbers
    (86,551). 58.5 were found to be normal, with 40.9 percent found to have ED to some degree. Of those found to be dysplastic a whopping 30.5 were rated Grade 1, with 8.8 percent grade 2, and 1.6 grade 3.

    OFA's comments on using dogs who are grade 1 in the elbows:

    You can read more about ED and HD at the OFA's website at http://www.offa.org
     
  4. ~Jessie~

    ~Jessie~ Chihuahua Power!

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    Chihuahuas are 22nd in patellas... 372 were tested, and 5.6% were abnormal.

    Other than that, the evaluation sizes were small and the rank was N/A.
     
  5. Melissa_W

    Melissa_W New Member

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    Shetland Sheepdogs are ranked 58th in ED with 3.2% abnormal.
    They are ranked 128th in HD with 4.8% abnormal.
     
  6. Lizmo

    Lizmo Water Junkie

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    Border Collies are ranked 83rd in HD with 7429 tested and were 11.1% abnormal.
    Ranked 72nd in ED with 1072 tested and 1.5 were abnormal.
    For Thyroid was ranked 29th with 81 tested and 4.9 were abnormal.
     
  7. planet molosser

    planet molosser CASSA

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    Sadly we dont rank yet cause we dont have enough dogs in our database.
    It took me years to get them up to where they can be compared to each other within breed vs outside the CAS database.

    It will take another 5 years for us to get our own Penn Hip mean.

    IN the mean time since most breeders are NOT xraying at all or all stock.
    The numbers will never clearly show a accurate pic of where our breed lies when compared to others.

    Since the breed is rare I wont list the results cause it will be taken wrongly.
     
  8. Zoom

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    Aussies are:
    #117 in terms of HD with 24292 tested and 5.8% abnormal
    #47 in ED with 2407 tested and 4.2% dysplastic

    Pretty healthy as far as tests submitted go.
     
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    Goldens are 31 ..... I blame this on changing the looks for the ring . Shorter legs the last 20 years . Such a shame !
     
  10. Renee750il

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    It would be really interesting to see how that broke down if it were divided into show and working lines.
     
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    Well, the one and only Mountain Cur tested was normal for HD.

    I'm curious, do most working dogs get the x-rays done? Obviously, they should. But I've been browsing some sites for stock dogs recently, and never saw any signs of health checks on any of them. Is it normal that the dogs out there working all day on a ranch aren't getting health checks done, or do some breeders do it? I'm looking at dogs with zero show lines. Not actually looking looking, like buying;) , just curious.
     
  12. Zoom

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    Most times if the dog has anything under what would be a "Fair-Good" rating, the dog just can't work all day long and wouldn't be bred anyway.
     
  13. RD

    RD Are you dead yet?

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    I think so too, Renee. I notice in my breed that the show-bred dogs tend to have looser hips. It might be from lack of conditioning, but I'm not sure. On the flip side, working Border Collies as a whole tend to have "loose" hips, which some people believe allows for greater flexibility and range of motion, as well as giving a little room for trauma and injury. It's not dysplasia, obviously, but hips that the PennHip and OFA people might look at and go "hmm". But yeah, i wish there were pedigrees on the OFA site.

    BB - as Zoom said, an unsound dog just couldn't do the work that stockdogs are expected to do. But I guess the question is, why does the OFA rating matter if the dog is working a ranch on a regular basis? If the dog can work, I consider it sound. Now, for the Sporter collies like Dakota, I'd insist on OFA'd stock. The dogs really don't do "normal" stuff like stock work, nothing is really testing their body as well as their mind, so I want some proof that the dog is of optimal soundness if it is going to twist, leap, skid, turn and stop on a dime like it does in agility.

    Border Collies are # 72 in hips, with 11% abnormal. #83 in hips, with 1.5 abnormal.
     
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    Bahamutt99 Dafuq?

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    I'm disappointed to say that the APBT is number 22 for dysplastic hips. (If I remember correctly. I just visited the site yesterday.) Everybody wants to point the finger at other lines/types for encouraging the HD, and few are actually stepping up and getting the testing done. ETA: I was almost right. Number 26. The AmStaff is 22. ETA ETA: Holy crap! The Dogo is really up there, too!
     
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    tibetan terriers: hips #119, hearing #4, patella #7, everything else n/a

    the dandie dinmont had a weird result: N/A, 32 evals, 50/50 on the percentages.
     
  16. SizzleDog

    SizzleDog Lord Cynical

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    Dobes are...

    #21 Cardiac (99.1% normal)
    #75 Elbow (98.5% normal)
    #113 Hips (93% normal)
     
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    Max was half shar-pei and half something else so I'll do shar-pei.

    cardiac ranks N/A
    Elbow ranks #4 (28.3 abnormal, 70.1 normal)
    Hips rank #66 (13.5 abnormal, 85.2 normal)
    Patella rank #4 (17.8 abnormal, 82.2 normal)
    thyroid rank N/A (4.2 abnormal, 91.7 normal)

    sorry for the double and triple post.
     
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  18. Cheza

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    Danes:

    ELBOW #48 with 95.7% normal
    HIPS #77 with 86.6% normal

    To me it didn't seem like a large degree of dogs were tested either (by comparison to other breeds.)
     
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    Blackmouth cur: Only 1 tested for hips, and it was 100 percent.

    Catahoula: Out of 341 dogs, 25.2 percent had hip dysplasia. They rank 23rd. I'm surprised how high they rank.
     
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    That's pretty much what I thought, but I admit ignorance on breeding issues;) . Thanks.
     

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