how do i find a mate to breed with my shihtzu?

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RobinKalmick said:
ummb.. i dont know another thread to post, and im not sure if i still want to breed, but if i do decide to he will definately be health examined and everything first.and so will the female whoever she may be.
I doubt you will find a purebred, intact female Shih Tzu who has had every extensive health test that is neccesary (sp?), has only one of the GREATEST personalities that you've met in a dog (pups inherit there parent's personailty, especially the mother's), one who's been properly cared for all her life (tooth brushing, ear cleaning, coat grooming, etc.), one who fits the AKC Shih Tzu written standard completely, one who has been in dog shows (preferrably), one who has raised a litter before (inexperienced breeders=pups who are not properly cared for), and has an owner who is fully prepared to take on the responsibility of caring for 2+ puppies for more than two months (and expects little sleep for that whole time period). Even if you do, I can GUARANTEE that she WILL NOT breed hers with yours, especially since he doesn't fit the written standards (or there is a 0.05% that he does).

I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just stating the facts. If your going to bring more puppies into this world were theres already a mass shortage for them, then you should bring them in with the best qualityand temperment that they can have. Please, please PLEASE don't contribute to the hundreds of THOUSANDS of puppies that end up in shelters. Every pup that comes out of your dog's "mate" is another dog dead in a shelter. Leave breeding up to the people who truly have a love and PASSION to breed responsibly.

Please, please think of what you are doing.
 

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Here's an idea:

Take your dog to the vet for a check-up to see if he's healthy. Then, make an appointment to neuter him so you can concentrate on enjoying your dog for the rest of his life and not have to worry about him getting cancer, escaping to find a b*tch in heat and getting hit by a car in the process. It's been said before, but you seem to be missing it, so I'll say it again:

NO GOOD SHIH TZU BREEDER WILL USE YOUR DOG without proof of ALL those aforementioned tests and at least one title to his name. If you just want a puppy, follow those petfinder links or look up Shih Tzu rescue. It's spring, they get a lot of puppies. Why? Because someone had a boy dog and knew someone with a girl dog and since they were both really really really cute, they "needed" to have puppies. Don't add to the problem. You've already said your dad doesn't like animals much to begin with, so you can't cop this one out on your parents.
 

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Sorry but I have a feeling this person is a troll, there is no way someone, after all the information they have received by the posters on here, explaining the reasons why its wrong to breed, would still be considering it, unless they are retarded in some way or completely heartless and totally irresponsible. no doubt they will just go a head and do exactly what they want. but I just hope they get to see the resultant pups/dogs from their breeding, when they are on the vets table being put to sleep because the owners who thought they were getting a bargain, find they can no longer afford the vet bills because of the mounting health problems they were born with.

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*sigh* It seems like an never ending battle. BYB seem to be poping out like bad weed every where.
 

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`Oh, well, I only want one puppy - I won't have to worry about the whole litter'.

That in itself is EXACTLY the reason you should not even be considering this. You don't give a toss about what you're creating. You just want a puppy from your dog. Unbelievable. After everything you've read, and you can still go and be so blatantly obvious about how little you care about the puppies that will result from this completely idiotic stunt. I just find it so hard to believe that someone in this world can be so utterly selfish. I try really hard not to get angry when I post but this is just the last straw. I have followed this whole thread and you just DON'T GET IT. You STILL think that if you have `health checks' it'll be ok.

For the last time.

THERE ARE ENOUGH PUPPIES IN THE WORLD. DON'T CONTRIBUTE TO THE PROBLEM. STOP BEING SO SELFISH. IF YOU WANT A PUPPY GO AND RESCUE ONE. BREEDING SHOULD BE FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE BREED, NOT A CHILDISH WHIM. GROW UP AND GET YOUR DOG NEUTERED.
 

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Did you read my post about my Carly? Stuff like this happens all the time when people want to breed because they want "one puppy." It will be cheaper in the long run for you to buy a puppy from a good breeder... or rescue. Shelters and rescues get puppies all of the time, and they are just as cute. It's always a good feeling when you know you helped save a life!

*sigh* I wish you could meet Carly in real life... yea she's cute, small, and everyone wants her, but there's so much more involved... Just like breeding
 

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`Oh, well, I only want one puppy - I won't have to worry about the whole litter'.

Yeah, well, I only want one Porsche, but I'm going to have to be realistic in life. But you have answered one question I've had for a long time. "What kind of a person would sell their puppies to a pet store?" Wonder if this isn't how, people who breed because they want "one puppy" from their cute fluffy little pets.

I suggest you find some legitimate breeders in your area and ask them in person what's involved and the costs for your area. Talk to a vet also. I think you'll get some up close and personal realism, breeding your dog will not give you a freebie pet. Cheaper, easier, and more ethical to adopt one from a shelter or rescue.
 

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You've already received such good advice. I have only one other thing that I would urge you to do. Take a stroll through a shelter, visit with some of those dogs briefly. Look into their faces. Look at their dark, concrete stalls with chain link gates. Look at them all alone, isolated for most of their time from people and the ability to play and touch other dogs. They're deprived of the basic need of social contact. I don't know how many there will be in one shelter, but multiply those numbers by millions. Realize that the vast majority of these dogs will suffer and languish in these shelters, alone, bewildered and unloved and then be given the needle which wastes their potential lives....what they could have had, had people who breed their dogs because they want a cute little puppy not created yet more dogs. Some of those sad souls could have been taken into someone's heart, home and life....someone like you or any of the people who you sell your puppies to.

If you cannot add something to improve the breed, something that no other breeder of champions or other proven dogs can do, you have no business breeding. It's on par with criminal.
 

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I'll repeat the repeats : No good breeder will be interested in your male. Your testings will cost more than buying a puppy. You WON'T get a clone of your male.
 
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I'll repeat the repeats : No good breeder will be interested in your male. Your testings will cost more than buying a puppy. You WON'T get a clone of your male.
exectly! Anyone with any sence would run a mile if you are offereing your dog for stud
 
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sometimes i really think you guys overdo it !

i think everybody got your message!!!!!!!!!! BYBreeding is not good, we got it!

but on this board it more seems that you hate EVERYBODY who wants to breed their dog and jump down everybodys throat as soon as you hear the word breeding......

and as far as the puppy problem in the usa is concerned.......
its really sad that in your country dogs get legally killed in shelters and can be legally sold to petstore, but guess what not every country does that!!! so there are obviously other ways to handle it!!!! it doesnt need to be like that. dont complain to the people who do it complain to your own goverment for allowing them to do so!

its funny that so many people say the puppys will most likely be sick and she will have to spend thousand of dollars on them because of health problems and at the same time advise her to get a puppy from the shelter that probably comes form a puppymill or byb too and is ( at least the majority) NOT well bred. so after your theory wouldnt she have to spend $$$ for vet bills on the shelter dog too???

god it really doesnt seem like she wants to make money with her dog nor start a big breeding programm. if she already has homes lined up for her puppys if he passes all the health testing, if she really finds a healthy bitch to breed with and is willing to take responsability for the puppys and eventual vetbills then i dont see the BIG BAD in this situation like you do.
 

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Oh please. So people shouldn't be responsible for themselves? The government let's us do it so we do. :rolleyes: Maybe we should blame God (or whoever) for free will too.
 
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Saje said:
Oh please. So people shouldn't be responsible for themselves? The government let's us do it so we do. :rolleyes: Maybe we should blame God (or whoever) for free will too.
yeah, exactly: SHOULD!
we wouldnt need ANY laws if that would be the case. but thats not how it works.....
 

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Exactly. That's why dedicated people try to educate other people. It's not always successful but that's the best way to help.
 

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but on this board it more seems that you hate EVERYBODY who wants to breed their dog and jump down everybodys throat as soon as you hear the word breeding......
Because 99% of the people on here who come asking for advice on how to breed are BYB. You dont see us jumping down Red's throat do you? NO. Why? Because she is a responsible breeder
 

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dont complain to the people who do it complain to your own goverment for allowing them to do so!
That's not the way we do things in this country. That's what has always made our country free and the most powerful and wealthy country. Things are eroding a little bit in that area, but we Americans don't, at the drop of a hat go running to the government for help if we can help ourselves in the private sector first. That said, education is what we're doing here. Producing puppies unnecessarily is irresponsible in the minds of most dog lovers in this country, at least the ones who have an inkling of understanding of the over population problem. We on this forum are one small voice of many who are striving to get the word out and I think we make a difference...one more grain of sand on the scale.
 
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Doberluv said:
That's what has always made our country free and the most powerful and wealthy country.
ok, i got a laugh out of that........great attitude.......

Doberluv said:
we Americans don't, at the drop of a hat go running to the government for help if we can help ourselves in the private sector first
i wont reply to this because its silly. i'll better keep politics out of this. it wouldnt lead anywhere nice.....

back to original topic: educating is fine and helpful, as long as its in a nice tone. some people seem to forget that poeple tent to NOT LISTEN if you talk down to them or insult them so if you really want to get a message across you got to stay friendly IMO ( like some did )

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If Red would post a question with another username she would probably have 10 people on her back withing 10 seconds even though she would be the same responsable breeder. i think there is a generell tendency to judge " breeders" to quickly and a lot of people seem to jump on the bashing-train.
 
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Doberluv said:
That's not the way we do things in this country. That's what has always made our country free and the most powerful and wealthy country. Things are eroding a little bit in that area, but we Americans don't, at the drop of a hat go running to the government for help if we can help ourselves in the private sector first. That said, education is what we're doing here. Producing puppies unnecessarily is irresponsible in the minds of most dog lovers in this country, at least the ones who have an inkling of understanding of the over population problem. We on this forum are one small voice of many who are striving to get the word out and I think we make a difference...one more grain of sand on the scale.
Which country is that? We have people from all over on this board. And I don't think americans are any freer than most other those from other countries to post here.
 

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