how do i find a mate to breed with my shihtzu?

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AusCatDogs_4Ever said:
NO ONE here will support you for this reason to want to breed your dog!
plenty of people do this all the time yall dun have to be so **** snobby.i am doing this responsibly. i need all the info i can get before i breed. i know how many dogs are euthenized every day. i understand how important it is to get ure dog neutered. i dun need a lecture on eny thing. its gonna happen w/ or w/out yalls help i would have appreiated some constructive advice. my dog is beautiful. he is the cutest shihtzu i have evr seen and i really want to breed him. thanx.
 

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You need to do a lot of research. The way you write makes you sound very young. Do your parents support this? I'm sure you don't mean to sound selfish but you need to think about your dog, the puppies and your breed.
 

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plenty of people do this all the time yall dun have to be so **** snobby.i am doing this responsibly. i need all the info i can get before i breed. i know how many dogs are euthenized every day. i understand how important it is to get ure dog neutered. i dun need a lecture on eny thing. its gonna happen w/ or w/out yalls help i would have appreiated some constructive advice. my dog is beautiful. he is the cutest shihtzu i have evr seen and i really want to breed him. thanx.
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Well those people that do that all the time are BYBs (Backyard Breeders) We aren't trying to be mean, we're trying to educate you about responsible breeding, so cool it.
 

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We are not being snobby Robin. We are being truthful. Trying to tell you what needs to be done before creating life. We care, that's all.
 

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RobinKalmick said:
plenty of people do this all the time yall dun have to be so **** snobby.i am doing this responsibly. i need all the info i can get before i breed. i know how many dogs are euthenized every day. i understand how important it is to get ure dog neutered. i dun need a lecture on eny thing. its gonna happen w/ or w/out yalls help i would have appreiated some constructive advice. my dog is beautiful. he is the cutest shihtzu i have evr seen and i really want to breed him. thanx.
Of course people do that all the time.. Thats why so many dogs and cats are euthanized everyday.. Thats why so many people have so much heartache because their cute little puppy that they bought from a "breeder" died early from health problems...Not the responsible thing to do...
 
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Are you sure you can afford to go through this? Have the time? Will you be bringing quality pups into the world that will help improve your breed? Do you have homes lined up?
yes i do. my whole family wants a puppy. my aunt my parents friend,...
 

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Is he show quality? How well does he fit the standard? If he is, show him. If you think he can improve the breed, find another show quality bitch. These are the only dogs that should be breed.
 

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Before you embark on breeding, you need to know about your dogs background, research its bloodlines(pedigree) know in your mind what your aim is in breeding, certain type etc, research into dogs pedigrees to find a suitable mate then contact the owners and ask , this is how you will find a mate, but be prepared to pay, no one with a quality dog is going to let you use it for nothing, anyone can go and mate their dog with some mutt round the corner, thats how rescue centers get filled up each day, you didnt say (Idont think, wether your dog is a dog or bitch?) if its a bitch no good respectable breeder will allow their dog to be used on a bitch that has not passed all relevant healthchecks required for your breed, we are not talking about general healthchecks here, we are talking about hips xrayed, eyes tested and certified, etc. same applies if your dog is a male, no respectable breeder will let you use your dog without the above, or in fact if its not been proven worthy of breeding from, if it was people would have been knocking at your door asking to use him. think long and hard about this you may want a puppy from your dog, but have you homes for the rest of the litter? are you prepared to take ALL of them back and refund the money if the owners decided they didnt want them? these are all things to consider. dont end up a back yard breeder, you are doing a disservice to your dog

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This was taken off my ACD forum, I wrote it, not sure if it will help any...

A BYB is a "Backyard Breeder" And what is a Backyard Breeder?

There are different types of these breeders...

Some will breed their purebred dog because it has a "nice personality" or another good quality, these dog may or may not registered. They do it to make some money and do not care who these puppies go to. Since they are not responsible as to where to place the pups many end up with irresponsible owners. Dogs with these types of owners end up with behavioral problems and will probably end up biting someone and getting put down because of it. Breeds like Rottweillers and Pit Bulls get a bad rep because of this. Pups may also end up with owners that are not educated about the breed. If the breed of dog doesn'y meet his requirements with the owner, again it developes behavioral problems and ends up in a shelter were millions of unadopted pets die each year.

Other BYB's breed dogs purebred dogs if they have good qualities or not. Many of these dogs have faults which continues these faults to the puppies. They too don't care about where the dog goes as long as they get money out of it. And them same problems happen as above when these dogs end up with irresponsible owners.

Other BYB's breed two purebred dogs of different breeds. These are called "Designer Dogs" such as "Labradoodles", "Puggles", "Malti-poos", Aussie-Doodles" and just about everyother cross you can think of! These dogs are NOT breeds they are simply mutts that you could adopt from from your local animal shelter. All these BYB's think about is making money. These dogs are sold for great amounts of money, often more than a good breeder sells a purebred puppy. It isn't unusal to see these breeds sold for a couple thousand dollars!

Please do not breed your dog. It's best to get him/her neutered/spayed, this will make your dog much more happy and healthy. There are already enough dogs in the world with out homes and being killed because of that.

Only breed if you are doing it for showing purposes and you will be responsible for the health of the parents and puppies and also to the homes the puppies go to. If you are thinking about becoming a breeder, RESEARH, visit with other breeders, go to dog shows, find the breed that suits you best and be RESPONSIBLE!
 

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Hi RobinKalmick -

I can understand having a dog you love and thinking you want another just like it. It's especially tempting when you have a really cute dog.

But what people are trying to say here (at least the ones who have actually offered constructive advice - the others might as well not post) is that there are a lot of things to take into account before you breed your cute little dog.

When people talk about the various health tests, they do this because so many breeds have shown up with some really nasty diseases. You would be heartbroken if you bred your dog and then the whole litter had some devastating disease that you could have avoided if you'd tested the mother and father first. Even if your dog seems to be completely healthy, he could have the potential to pass on a serious genetic defect. This is why all the testing is so important. I'm sure you don't want to bring sickly puppies into the world.

Another reason people are against you breeding is that breeding should be done for all the right reasons. To keep a breed's traits at the right level of quality, only the very best dogs should be used in a breeding program. This means the dogs that fit the breed standard (which is a written description of what the breed is supposed to be like, including bone structure, coat, eyes, temperament, size, etc.). This is usually shown by taking them to competent judges who assess your dog and tell you if it's a good example of the breed.

If we breed indiscriminately just because we think we have a nice, cute dog we can quickly get away from the proper traits that make the breed what it is. The AKC papers don't mean a thing other than someone saying that the dog was a purebred. AKC papers have nothing to do with the quality of the dog.

And then we have the whole rescue problem. Many, if not most, of the dogs in shelters are there because someone thought their dog was cute and wanted to let it have puppies. Like I said, I can understand wanting another cute dog just like the one you have. But the reality is that there are thousands and thousands of cute dogs dying everyday because people bred when they shouldn't have. It's a sad fact of life. But responsible people do NOT breed just because their dog is "cute".

I have five dogs (you can see them in my signature). The lighter colored chow is an absolute beauty. She has a perfect temperament and is being shown in conformation and obedience and will earn titles. I may breed her some day - but not until she has proven herself with titles and I've done all the health testing appropriate for her breed (including x-rays and blood tests). I could look at her right now and say "wow, she's really pretty so I should breed her" but to do so would make me a bad breeder. I don't want to take the risk that she might produce puppies with problems, so I am going to do all the responsible things first and then carefully research the background of the male I find to make sure he fits with her and can complement her strong traits and help build up where she lacks a bit.

I hope you do some serious thinking about what you want to do. Anyone who offers their bitch to you to breed is not going to be someone who has done all the proper research and testing either, so there will be a double chance that there could be problems. Do you really want to take such a risk? And do you really want to contribute to the over-population problem?

Good luck -

Melanie and the gang in Alaska
 

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Hi RobinKalmick -

I can understand having a dog you love and thinking you want another just like it. It's especially tempting when you have a really cute dog.

But what people are trying to say here (at least the ones who have actually offered constructive advice - the others might as well not post) is that there are a lot of things to take into account before you breed your cute little dog.

When people talk about the various health tests, they do this because so many breeds have shown up with some really nasty diseases. You would be heartbroken if you bred your dog and then the whole litter had some devastating disease that you could have avoided if you'd tested the mother and father first. Even if your dog seems to be completely healthy, he could have the potential to pass on a serious genetic defect. This is why all the testing is so important. I'm sure you don't want to bring sickly puppies into the world.

Another reason people are against you breeding is that breeding should be done for all the right reasons. To keep a breed's traits at the right level of quality, only the very best dogs should be used in a breeding program. This means the dogs that fit the breed standard (which is a written description of what the breed is supposed to be like, including bone structure, coat, eyes, temperament, size, etc.). This is usually shown by taking them to competent judges who assess your dog and tell you if it's a good example of the breed.

If we breed indiscriminately just because we think we have a nice, cute dog we can quickly get away from the proper traits that make the breed what it is. The AKC papers don't mean a thing other than someone saying that the dog was a purebred. AKC papers have nothing to do with the quality of the dog.

And then we have the whole rescue problem. Many, if not most, of the dogs in shelters are there because someone thought their dog was cute and wanted to let it have puppies. Like I said, I can understand wanting another cute dog just like the one you have. But the reality is that there are thousands and thousands of cute dogs dying everyday because people bred when they shouldn't have. It's a sad fact of life. But responsible people do NOT breed just because their dog is "cute".

I have five dogs (you can see them in my signature). The lighter colored chow is an absolute beauty. She has a perfect temperament and is being shown in conformation and obedience and will earn titles. I may breed her some day - but not until she has proven herself with titles and I've done all the health testing appropriate for her breed (including x-rays and blood tests). I could look at her right now and say "wow, she's really pretty so I should breed her" but to do so would make me a bad breeder. I don't want to take the risk that she might produce puppies with problems, so I am going to do all the responsible things first and then carefully research the background of the male I find to make sure he fits with her and can complement her strong traits and help build up where she lacks a bit.

I hope you do some serious thinking about what you want to do. Anyone who offers their bitch to you to breed is not going to be someone who has done all the proper research and testing either, so there will be a double chance that there could be problems. Do you really want to take such a risk? And do you really want to contribute to the over-population problem?

Good luck -

Melanie and the gang in Alaska
Nicely said.:)
 

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i am doing this responsibly
OK then. What titles does he have? Conformation/proformance?
What health testing have you done? (hips, ears, eyes, ect.. NOT vet checks)
You have a boy, I hope you realize the pups belong to the owner of the mother of the pups and NOT you, therfore you will only get one pup as a stud fee.

If he does not have any titles dont breed him.
Besides wanting a pup why do you want to breed?
 

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yeah what if that puppy that you want to keep from yourself is terribly unhealthy? it will cost you thousand of dollars over its lifetime to fight a losing battle. Do you think others that get the other pups will be willing to fork over thousands of dollars to deal with the health problems? you wouldn't want pups from your beloved boy to end up in shelters or worse, dead!
 

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i will pray that in the future that "if" you do breed that you wont have to go threw putting your dog down and your family putting these puppies(adults) down cause you didnt want to do health testing
what if cause you had to have puppies that in 5 -10 years they have knee problems there going blind there liver is shutting down
your family is heartbroken then what ? it will be too late
at least do the testing then if he passes everything then decide if breeding is right
 

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Robin~Take it from someone who has JUST NOW gone through the entire breeding process. DO NOT BREED YET!
My breeding was an accident, BUT, I did always expect to breed-one day.
The one day came quicker then I expected, and yes, I too caught crap everywhere I went. The only difference??I have pitbulls.
Anyway, my litter was whelped. I had 8 beautiful babies. Well, wasnt long when I lost one due to aspiriating fluids while nursing(going in his lungs) and another has a HUGE overbite. Love him to death, otherwise absolutly perfect, but I am keeping him, he has a genetic problem, I brought him here like that, I am responsible now for the rest of my life for him. Who knows what medical problems he may endure??? Another, Daizy, well, read the other post titled "Numb" and you will see my perdicament with her. There is puppy #2 I am keeping.I currently have 2 pitbulls and two peke as well. I will have 7 dogs in my house to take care of. Because the wrong thing happened, I have got to be responsible, and look at me now. I love them and thank GOD every minute I got a chance to know these bugers, but the next 15 years or so, well, dont ask me out, Im too busy!(just as my kids are gettin gold enough to leave!!!)
It is alot of work, but not as easy as you think. You fall in love so hard, you dont want to give them up.

Wait, read, learn, then make a decision.

Not to mention what you will be putting momma through, man, the pain is almost intolorable to watch.
 

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Robin~Take it from someone who has JUST NOW gone through the entire breeding process. DO NOT BREED YET!
My breeding was an accident, BUT, I did always expect to breed-one day.
The one day came quicker then I expected, and yes, I too caught crap everywhere I went. The only difference??I have pitbulls.
Anyway, my litter was whelped. I had 8 beautiful babies. Well, wasnt long when I lost one due to aspiriating fluids while nursing(going in his lungs) and another has a HUGE overbite. Love him to death, otherwise absolutly perfect, but I am keeping him, he has a genetic problem, I brought him here like that, I am responsible now for the rest of my life for him. Who knows what medical problems he may endure??? Another, Daizy, well, read the other post titled "Numb" and you will see my perdicament with her. There is puppy #2 I am keeping.I currently have 2 pitbulls and two peke as well. I will have 7 dogs in my house to take care of. Because the wrong thing happened, I have got to be responsible, and look at me now. I love them and thank GOD every minute I got a chance to know these bugers, but the next 15 years or so, well, dont ask me out, Im too busy!(just as my kids are gettin gold enough to leave!!!)
It is alot of work, but not as easy as you think. You fall in love so hard, you dont want to give them up.

Wait, read, learn, then make a decision.

Not to mention what you will be putting momma through, man, the pain is almost intolorable to watch.
Aww I didn't know you lost a pup.:( Thanks for sharing your breeding experience, it might help others a lot on deciding on whether or not to breed.

Good luck with your pups.:)
 

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Robin... having been in breeding for so many years....you really have to do what everyone has suggested.... otherwise all you have is a pup from a BYB who may not know quat and you end up with a pick of the litter that could be 360 from your male. Work with your dog and clubs of your breed for at least 3 years. I would say I turned down studding my males at least 80% . Be responsible and keep us in touch.
 
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AusCatDogs_4Ever said:
Aww I didn't know you lost a pup.:( Thanks for sharing your breeding experience, it might help others a lot on deciding on whether or not to breed.

Good luck with your pups.:)
thanx, i didnt know there was soo much to breeding. how much does all this cost. i thought that since my dog wasn't a show dog that it didnt matter who i bred my dog with as long as it was another shihtzu that was akc registered. i feel like a retard lol. i didn know my dog had to be perfect in order to breed. o yea my dog is a boy.his name is shloe moe. i didnt know everyone was gonna get on my bak for wanting to breed my dog. i just want a puppy from my dog. my golden retreiver just died a few months ago, i havent been able to stop thinking about her. my parents euthenized her because she had very bad arthritis and could barely get up. she was allergic to her own skin and when she got older the rash's got worse. she started itching her skin non stop no matter what we tryed. we spent way to much money on vet bills every few months for the same thing. she was so miserable. when i found out after school that she was gone after i had taken care of her threw all of this. i went nuts. deep down i knew it was for the best, but i couldnt handle her being gone w/ out me being able to say goodbye. even tho shes a dog, i wonder what was going threw her mind as she slowly went to sleep. any wayzz the only way i can have another dog is if i breed shloe moe, and take a puppy. im a jew were cheap, if yuh didn kno that bout jews. lol. i'd do eny thing to have another dog. not to replace my dog that was euthenized, but because i miss having a companion around. (someone to talk too) i dun have alot of friends animals are my life. i have wanted to be a vet since i knew what a vet was. i dun want to harm animals. infact i wanna kill people that do. if i had known that there was more to breeding than what i thought, trust me i would never have aksedyall for help.
 

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