How can I stop this?
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I'm glad to know that you play around with him, and otherwise he's been trained and loved. when you say needy people, are you talking about all those that don't have a place or family to live with? I'll give you the answer to that. society doesn't have great disdain for needy people. do you know how much charity organizations there are? but another answer, is that nobody took a responsibility to accomodate those needy people. you don't own them, you're not responsible for them. but when you buy a puppy, it's your responsibility. I'm not trying to sound mean or anything. I know that over the internet a lot of things can be misinterpreted. I'm just saying that your dog wants to feel a part of the family. labradors are generally very clean, loving, and calm dogs. if you let him on the patio or in your home, he wouldn't destroy it or anything. maybe let him walk around the patio and a specific room in the house where he wouldn't bother anyone. so he could still feel part of your family without anyone noticing much of a difference.
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I dont' think I read very carefully, but he does say his dog gets excersize. Soemthing about plenty of space to run around in and gives him off leash walks. Sounds like the dog is getting a fair amount, so that is why I thought his food might the be the culprit
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Dogs are descendants of wolves (obviously). Wolves, as we all know, live in packs and live as a family. Labradors in particular are social butterflies and NEED attention and love. Depriving them of this may not hurt them physically, but can damage them emotionally. Because a dog is allowed indoors does not mean that they are treated like royalty. My dog abides by some simple guidelines. He is not allowed on our bed, and can only eat when we give the A-okay. The alpha dog in a pack would often set 'guidelines' for the dogs in his pack, such as:
He eats before them.
He gets first pick of the sleeping places.
He decides where they go, when they go.
So, most of us probably set simple rules like these in their household as well.
I think it is extremely responsible and caring of you to consider what's best for your dog. Best wishes, and I hope you can figure something out!
~Emily
He eats before them.
He gets first pick of the sleeping places.
He decides where they go, when they go.
So, most of us probably set simple rules like these in their household as well.
I think it is extremely responsible and caring of you to consider what's best for your dog. Best wishes, and I hope you can figure something out!
~Emily
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If I might join the thread.....there is mention made of this particular dog's horrid "neediness". Well, this very "neediness" is the foundation of the human/dog interactive relationship!!!!!!!!!!!!
And getting a dog is like deciding to add a kid to the family. There is the responsibility of tending to a dog's needs.....physical, mental and EMOTIONAL.
From the pictures, this dog is in good physical condition. I read about walks....of leash, and if the dog decides to take off, so be it. So I assume there has been absolutely no obedience training? So much for the mental well being of the dog. Not to mention the idiocy of walking a dog off leash so it can dart out into a road perhaps, and cause a car crash, or even get hit by a car. Some research into dog owner liability is needed.
There is absolutely no responsible emotional care being given.....as evidenced by virtually every post from the O.P.
And I had to wonder how old were the kids before they were allowed into the house prior to being toilet trained?? There are people who are millionaires, and have mansions........yet they also have a room for the dog where they can be with it. They just block off the areas they don't want the dog to "invade".
Now.....let us examine service dogs. They live with their owners 24/7. In fact you cannot get a service dog UNLESS it lives with ya 24/7!!!!!
Also.....of what use is a dog for protection if it is a yard dog? One piece of meat laced with poison or sedative, and that is that.
A dog is a pack animal. It is encased in their genetic makeup. They live to socialize with their pack....humans or otherwise. To get a dog and thwart the very innermost inbred instinct and NEED of the dog is a cruel thing. Chug seems totally devoid of compassion, and certainly has NO UNDESTANDING of canine psychology.
I was attacked today by a dog that lives like Chug wants his dog to live. Luckily the dog did not expect me to growl and bark back at her, and chase after her, so she came to a skidding stop that would have done a quarter horse proud!!!
If one is not able to meet all the needs of a dog......mental.......emotional......as well as physical, then one is being essentially cruel to that dog, and should do the right thing and find a good loving home for it.
And getting a dog is like deciding to add a kid to the family. There is the responsibility of tending to a dog's needs.....physical, mental and EMOTIONAL.
From the pictures, this dog is in good physical condition. I read about walks....of leash, and if the dog decides to take off, so be it. So I assume there has been absolutely no obedience training? So much for the mental well being of the dog. Not to mention the idiocy of walking a dog off leash so it can dart out into a road perhaps, and cause a car crash, or even get hit by a car. Some research into dog owner liability is needed.
There is absolutely no responsible emotional care being given.....as evidenced by virtually every post from the O.P.
And I had to wonder how old were the kids before they were allowed into the house prior to being toilet trained?? There are people who are millionaires, and have mansions........yet they also have a room for the dog where they can be with it. They just block off the areas they don't want the dog to "invade".
Now.....let us examine service dogs. They live with their owners 24/7. In fact you cannot get a service dog UNLESS it lives with ya 24/7!!!!!
Also.....of what use is a dog for protection if it is a yard dog? One piece of meat laced with poison or sedative, and that is that.
A dog is a pack animal. It is encased in their genetic makeup. They live to socialize with their pack....humans or otherwise. To get a dog and thwart the very innermost inbred instinct and NEED of the dog is a cruel thing. Chug seems totally devoid of compassion, and certainly has NO UNDESTANDING of canine psychology.
I was attacked today by a dog that lives like Chug wants his dog to live. Luckily the dog did not expect me to growl and bark back at her, and chase after her, so she came to a skidding stop that would have done a quarter horse proud!!!
If one is not able to meet all the needs of a dog......mental.......emotional......as well as physical, then one is being essentially cruel to that dog, and should do the right thing and find a good loving home for it.
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well I'm glad I could be of help I hope the ideas work out for you and your family.
and about the emotional neediness... there are plenty of counselors you could talk to and all that out there. there are so many lines you could call for advice or just to be able to pour out your heart. a lot of people care, and I know that from personal experience
I hope the ideas work out for you and your family.and about the emotional neediness... there are plenty of counselors you could talk to and all that out there. there are so many lines you could call for advice or just to be able to pour out your heart. a lot of people care, and I know that from personal experience
Again, if you don't want to get rid of him and since it sounds like your wife is pretty intent on him not setting foot in the house, get him a friend. My Aussie, the Original Velcro dog, has been much less needy since we got Aubrey. He can be left out of his kennel when I'm gone for about an hour or so, as long as Aubrey is around, where as 10 minutes alone was a Very Bad Idea when I first got him.
But what the quoted above said is true. And if your Lab, a breed known for is voraciousness, will leave food until released he shouldn't have an issue with house rules. Keep him confined to the kitchen. Or he may not even want to come inside. My boyfriend's collie lived outside for the better part of its life and got to the point where he would not go inside to save his life. I know, because I had to help drag him through the hallway to the garage when it got too cold for him to be outside all the time.
But what the quoted above said is true. And if your Lab, a breed known for is voraciousness, will leave food until released he shouldn't have an issue with house rules. Keep him confined to the kitchen. Or he may not even want to come inside. My boyfriend's collie lived outside for the better part of its life and got to the point where he would not go inside to save his life. I know, because I had to help drag him through the hallway to the garage when it got too cold for him to be outside all the time.
Emily, your comments relating to canine behavior are consistent with the research that I've done. Thank you for taking the time to remind me of the most important parts of that research.
Southern_girl09, rehoming is the last resort and I would only consider it after trying everything possible and having it fail. There are so many gems of wisdom, knowledge and insight that so many wonderful people have posted that I'm confident that I will find a solution.
Molly Moppet, thanks for stopping by. I'm not sure if it's purely cultural differences because I know of people here that have an unhealthy love obsession with their dogs here as well. It seems to me that there are different levels of or stages of loving and caring for a dog. Just because I don't choose to go overboard with that, doesn't make me an unfit owner but I cannot help but laugh at the people who judge me as unfit and urge me surrender my dog without trying anything first. I read up on other threads and these same people neuter their dogs and have them caged up at times....or crate them which seems to be the more palatable term. I find neutering, particularly a male animal to modify it's behavior surgically to be as appalling as the war time work of Josef Mengele. To me, it's not humane, it's selfish and it's cruel and as far as caging a dog up goes....don't get me started on that but I will say this....for you people that cage your dog, have you put yourself in their place and considered how you'd feel? LOL, dog lovers my a$$
Fran27, I appreciate your comments
Becce, your two lines hold more meaning than the countless paragraphs I've read the last few days. Solutions need to be considered first. To think otherwise is thoughtless and devoid of any intellect.
gaddylovesdogs, I'm sure if you did skim the thread you would have had something of value to contribute.
Southern_girl09, rehoming is the last resort and I would only consider it after trying everything possible and having it fail. There are so many gems of wisdom, knowledge and insight that so many wonderful people have posted that I'm confident that I will find a solution.
Molly Moppet, thanks for stopping by. I'm not sure if it's purely cultural differences because I know of people here that have an unhealthy love obsession with their dogs here as well. It seems to me that there are different levels of or stages of loving and caring for a dog. Just because I don't choose to go overboard with that, doesn't make me an unfit owner but I cannot help but laugh at the people who judge me as unfit and urge me surrender my dog without trying anything first. I read up on other threads and these same people neuter their dogs and have them caged up at times....or crate them which seems to be the more palatable term. I find neutering, particularly a male animal to modify it's behavior surgically to be as appalling as the war time work of Josef Mengele. To me, it's not humane, it's selfish and it's cruel and as far as caging a dog up goes....don't get me started on that but I will say this....for you people that cage your dog, have you put yourself in their place and considered how you'd feel? LOL, dog lovers my a$$
Fran27, I appreciate your comments
Becce, your two lines hold more meaning than the countless paragraphs I've read the last few days. Solutions need to be considered first. To think otherwise is thoughtless and devoid of any intellect.
gaddylovesdogs, I'm sure if you did skim the thread you would have had something of value to contribute.
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Sorry but about the nuetering thing. NOT only does nuetering prevent unwanted pregnancies when dogs may by complete accident escape or some other thing BUT it is far more healthy for the dog!! they have far less chance (or no chance) or getting cancer in those areas than a dog that is not nuetered. when people have dogs for breeding they of course need the dog unaltered but once that dog is done with his breeding duties the responsible breeder should immediately nueter the dog to ensure the likely hood of a healthy dog in the future plus no unwanted dogs will come of it.
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Again, if you don't want to get rid of him and since it sounds like your wife is pretty intent on him not setting foot in the house, get him a friend. My Aussie, the Original Velcro dog, has been much less needy since we got Aubrey. He can be left out of his kennel when I'm gone for about an hour or so, as long as Aubrey is around, where as 10 minutes alone was a Very Bad Idea when I first got him.
But what the quoted above said is true. And if your Lab, a breed known for is voraciousness, will leave food until released he shouldn't have an issue with house rules. Keep him confined to the kitchen. Or he may not even want to come inside. My boyfriend's collie lived outside for the better part of its life and got to the point where he would not go inside to save his life. I know, because I had to help drag him through the hallway to the garage when it got too cold for him to be outside all the time.
But what the quoted above said is true. And if your Lab, a breed known for is voraciousness, will leave food until released he shouldn't have an issue with house rules. Keep him confined to the kitchen. Or he may not even want to come inside. My boyfriend's collie lived outside for the better part of its life and got to the point where he would not go inside to save his life. I know, because I had to help drag him through the hallway to the garage when it got too cold for him to be outside all the time.
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Though you've done it in a less noticable manner, your rude remarks regarding the people on this forum, the love for their dogs, an their actions that are produced from that love, are getting tiring to read. It really is not helpful and does not contribute to this thread.
Certainly crating a dog while you are away is more humane than letting your dog roam free to get into poisens, choke on something that was eaten, or even end up having to have something surgically removed from their stomachs when they cannot pass bowels(from eating things that should not be eaten)?
Certainly crating a dog while you are away is more humane than letting your dog roam free to get into poisens, choke on something that was eaten, or even end up having to have something surgically removed from their stomachs when they cannot pass bowels(from eating things that should not be eaten)?
I do believe "somewhere" in this thread I read that another dog was considered but decided against because a friends dog was introduced and chugalugs dog was very protective against the deck and sliding doors in question. I think this only would add to the problems that chugalug has, not to mention getting a dog for the sole reason of intertaining the lab. I surely believe this would only complicate the original problem. What it both dogs smudge the window and sit staring in at the family going about their business, not to mention if they fight over whom gets their nose the nearest.
Okay, I am not trying to be funny, but it could happen.
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Okay, I am not trying to be funny, but it could happen.
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