Nov 4th - 10th for a Sheltie/Collie breeder. She has 20 dogs :yikes: but most are kennel dogs. She isnt a byb. Just has alot of dogs. The fun part? She has a sheltie litter due on the 10th!! Even if she doesnt whelp before they get back she said I could stay and help. Ive never whelped a litter before but I am friends with a couple of breeders in the area. Within 30min drive that can come help if I need. My mom is comming to take care of Katie so I dont have to worry about that. I whont forget the camera this time!