Rather than continually derail threads with this topic, how 'bout we hash it out? When is it okay, IS it ever okay to hit your dog? I admit it right now. I hit my dogs. I do it 99.9 percent of the time in play and 3 of the 4 are very rough and tumble and LOVE being smacked around. Bates also loves having his cheeks grabbed. I bite him too But not often because it suck to pick dog hair out from between your teeth. But I'd be lying if I said I've never gotten frustrated with one of my dogs to the point of jerking the leash or otherwise trying to physically retaliate. I'm not much of a hitter, but I think if I were, I would have. I imediately felt bad though and apologized to both the dog and myself for allowing things to get to that point. So I guess what I'm saying is I understand those moments of extreme frustration where we do things we regret. But does that make it okay?