I was saying I have trouble understanding all the copycat collar stuff. I just see so many similarities with so many collar makers work like this one and the The Rocko - Leather Dog Collar - Paco Collars . But I mean, I see a difference, another bead in the middle, there are only so many ways to make a collar right? lol I can't make a dang thing aside from a photograph so I've been just reading the collar stuff. I just keep noticing similarities so often that now I think I'm seeing double, triple, and quadruple on these websites. That said I think these vintage collars still look great. It's a fun idea for all the vintage stuff, really. I will say all this collar drama has sure built up a lot of attention and I'm sure encouraged revenue for all, I keep looking and now i want some leather gear as well.