Help with breeding 2 staffies.

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  1. moe

    moe New Member

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    I would seperate them now do not force her, get the health checks done THEN mate her on her season after the health checks, she will be more mature and more able to cope with a litter if you give her time, after you have had the test done then decide whats best for your *****, as you say a dog is for life so waiting a few more months till all the health checks come back hopefully clear, will not be any problem.


    In the meantime I suggest you get a book called the book of the ***** this will help.
    Mo
     
  2. bubbatd

    bubbatd Moderator

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    First of all, wait for the next heat and get all the testing done. Second...if she's not accepting the male, she's not ready. Third.....get the book " how to raise a Puppy you can Live with " Rutherford and Neil. ALL the answers are there....Starting with the breeding which tells you when a female is ready.....You need to read more if you think the female is ready at 1 week into heat. I have a feeling you are still going to go ahead in spite of the advice here. Sad!
     
  3. Love4Pits

    Love4Pits Playful Husky Pup

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    Like alot of people have said before me (sorry I was so late guys) if she is'nt accepting the male I would wait and like grammy said (bubbatd) wait for her next heat and get all the needed testing done. I am a breeder of Siberian Huskies and Chins and telling you from my professional experience breeding is an expensive process (if done responsibly) and should'nt be taken too lightly.

    I during in her test results if there is even a hint of a problem i would'nt breed her. Because lets say you breed her and she has puppies and their puppies have puppies and so on and so forth the problem with get bigger and bigger. Also the male being bred to her should have the same tests as you want him to be healthy and worthy of passing on his genes. Now also you would want to look at both temperments you want a loving dog that stands true to a staffy's temperment obviousely you don't want to breed aggressive or shy dogs.

    I breed my dogs 3-4 times or more sometimes during one heat cycle never leaving them alone together for even a second. I then take my dogs and have their blood work done again and have the ***** sonogramed to make sure it took and she is definatly pregnant. It costs money but I like to be sure I have my dogs sonogramed 2-3 times during pregnancy gives a good idea of how many puppies are coming and prepares me. You probley already know all this but if you don't im just letting you know :). You should have or make up a first aid kit for puppies birth alot of breeding sites have the things listed you will need. Get her some sort of welping bed.

    If you do all the proper tests there should'nt be any problems during labor and birth but its possible. Now if you don't get tests done you have a higher risk of problems where you can lose mum and puppies.

    Like I said its expensive but I think worth it I have a litter of five husky pups at the moment gonna be 8 weeks this Saterday and I did all this with their mum and dad before their birth and they are happy and healthy pups already got great homes to go to at 12 weeks.

    Anyways good luck and if you have any other questions you can pm me
     
  4. samcim

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    Ok have decided not to do it YET, Ive ordered the book of the bit*h & "how to raise a Puppy you can Live with" Thay were only £3 each second hand from amazon :) How much do these tests cost? What do thay test for?

    Thanks again

    Sam
     
  5. BigDog2191

    BigDog2191 Big German Shepherd

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    I admire how open-minded you were, samcim. Kudos :).
     
  6. Rose's Gal

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    I don't know how much the tests cost, but I do know what they are for. lol

    Staffies are prone to hip problems and eye problems. So those tests just make sure that your dogs aren't carrying those problems on to the pups. (Because, you don't want a pup that is going to have hip or eye problems.)
    The OFA certificates say how good the hips are. I wouldn't breed a dog unless it scored a good or higher on the test.
    The CERF tests are for the eyes. These need to be done yearly, if you are going to continue to breed your dogs after this litter. (Which, I'm not going to appraise untill I know more about your breeding practices.)

    And while you are waiting to breed, I'd also see if there is a possibility that you could show your dogs. That will let you know if your dog goes with the breed standard.
    I'd also make up a contract saying that certain requirements have to be made by the buyer of a puppy, or you get the puppy back. You could also include a health garentee, yada yada. If you want what is included in a basic contract, let me know. I have a simple one in a book I have. :) (Or then, of course, you could just ask Love4Pits. lol ;) )
     
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    Oh, BTW, very handsome Staffie you have there. ;)

    Even if they are family/freinds, I'd suggest you screen them anyway, if you end up breeding. I have some friends/family I wouldn't trust my dogs with even though they may like them. I have two dogs, a male and a female, bothed fixed, and I had a friend of Wesley's (my little bro) come up to me and say: "When they have puppies, can we have one?"
    I was like, "Well, they are bothed fixed, so they won't be having puppies." But in my head I was going: "Um, I wouldn't give one to you guys anyway." No offence to the people, they are nice people, but I don't think they'd have the smarts to not let the dog run loose, how to train the dog, etc.

    So ya, make sure that your family/friends won't breed the dog, they won't make the dog live outside, they won't let the dog offleash in an unfenced area, they'll provide proper training, etc., etc.
     
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    Sam my man, I'm proud of you !!! I really don't know the costs today, but you can call around and check. Also, when you get "The" book , let me know what you think of it.....I wish more people who get or breed pups would take my recommendation more seriously. I'm hoping you can support me. I'll be looking forward to hearing about your great adventure !
     
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    Sam.please please PLEASE be very careful...do not breed your dog unless you and the dog is 100 percent ready...they need to be thouroughly health tested, and even then you should be reading into their bloodlines..but since you can't, I would honestly reconsider..It seems like you really love your dogs..but that's not a legitimate reason to breed them..puppies are a huge responsibility..along with any vet bills that may follow if they end up with health problems due to irresponsible breeding...

    I am very glad that you got the books that were recommended by some of the other members here..its a great start..and maybe once you read them you will reconsider, or simply measure up to responsible breeder standards...personally though, I think that takes alot of time, knowledge, and experience..

    Whichever way you decide to go, I hope you do whats best for the dogs and any pups that may follow..please screen all potential puppy parents..even if they are your friends and family...sometimes people don't even know why they want a dog besides it being "cute as a button"..good luck with your decision, and please keep us posted... ;)
     
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    Samcim, you're awesome. You're so open and that's wonderful. Especially, with all of us dog lovers drilling you. We have the best intentions but can come on strong and I'm so glad you want to learn.

    I think waiting is a good decision. I'm sure you would be heartbroken if something happened to the mom or the pups so it's good to wait until she's a little more mature and to do some more research.

    I think you're great. :D
     
  11. samcim

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    Yeah gunna read the books and see how much these screens cost, 6 months isn't long to wait till her next heat :) Thanks for the support, will let you know how me and the wife gets on with the books.
     
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    Keep in mind though... If you got the dog from a friend, it's likely that you won't be so happy with the results of the tests. And I believe that they are expensive.
     
  13. bubbatd

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    They are worth the cost............. Sam and his wife will do what's right......they'll go by " THE book ". The 1st chapter is why or why not to breed and explains.
     
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    Of course they are worth it... Just warning that he might end up spending lots of money for tests only to find out that his dog is not breed quality. Unless you get a dog from a responsible breeder who did testing on the parents etc, you are likely to have a puppy that isn't breed quality.

    So, before you spend so much money, maybe you should ask the friend you got the dog from if the parents had the testing done. If they haven't, you should just save the money and neuter her in my opinion.
     
  15. bubbatd

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    Fran... I doubt if the breeders did. Sam has 6 months to check on the pedigrees, ask previous litter buyers, etc before he proceeds.
     

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