Help! Why won't my puppy get housebroken?

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Hey when you read something in this setting you can only take in what is in a post. Maybe you are just frustrated or something.

I am sure all of us would enjoy helping you through these problems......lots of good advice here. But you really have to try it without fail for days and days before you will really know if it is working or not.

But when someone gives advice and then gets a post back to forget it.....I am just going to crate the dog for 22 hours a day........It gets me if not others ticked off. I mean we are dog lovers on here. And don't like to see dogs neglected or abused.

Where is the boyfriend at anyway? I guess you live together?

So maybe we can all start over if you don't neglect the dog we can start helping you. If you don't want to try, then the best bet is to rehome the dog, not to crate him for 22 hours a day.;)
you don't have to be rude. sorry i tried to come to some dog people for advice, and just get my head bitten off. and i DO NOT neglect my dog. she, if anything, got too spoiled to the point where she got away with everything with her. Sorry I asked you people for advice, I thought maybe you could have helped instead of attacking me.
I'm just going to call the humane society or the vet now and see what I can do about getting rid of her. Joe already ruined her - and the problem with him is, he doesn't seem to care or want to help. He just lets her get away with everything. He's never had a dog, so he doesn't understand. I had a wonderful dog already, and I don't need a monster to follow her up. I've just been at my wits end. I think I'm just too frustrated to even want to try with her anymore. and friendly advice: don't be rude to people. it's how you make enemies.
 

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I stick to my opinion that keeping her in the crate for 22 hours a day is just plain cruel. I was trying to be diplomatic, but if you have this much anger towards her, please find her another home. She will not be a pet to you if she's in the crate all day, and she will be miserable. If you are not willing to start the housebraking process from scratch (like it was suggested to you), or if maybe you don't have the time or patience, find someone who is willing to put in the time.

My puppy was peeing and pooping in the house in the beginning - like all puppies do. I never once thought of crating her all day. I just kept at it, and she is now perfectly housebroken, no accidents for quite some time. Was I frustrated and at a loss? - Heck yes, but I never thought that I should punish her because she is a dog. I took her outside constantly, to the point that I could not do anything else for 2 weeks. She tried to make mama happy and now she is. She is still a puppy...

Have you tried the doggie pampers thingies? Maybe those will work...

Chewing - puppy proof the room you keep her in. If a toddler is left alone in a room with a bunch of china displays within his reach, what do you think you'll find when you come back? Lots of broken china on the floor...

Have you considered a playpen for dogs? I have one in the kitchen (on tiles) for my puppy and she is in there while I am at work - not confined in a crate - she has toys, water, her bed, stuff that I don't mind if she breaks/chews (and she chewed 3 doggie beds so far, but she's a dog and she'll do that if she's bored) and if she really needs to go potty, she'll go and I don't mind cleaning up the tiles after her - after all, it's my fault that I wasn't home when she needed to go.

There are other alternatives besides crating her the whole day - if you don't find one, please give her to someone who is not as angry at her as you are.

ETA: I guess you made your decision. That's fine - it would just be great if you could stop calling her a monster - can't you see it's not her fault? I hope you will all be happier once she is rehomed, which I think is a great decision under the circumstances. Good luck with everything.
 

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you don't have to be rude. sorry i tried to come to some dog people for advice, and just get my head bitten off. and i DO NOT neglect my dog. she, if anything, got too spoiled to the point where she got away with everything with her. Sorry I asked you people for advice, I thought maybe you could have helped instead of attacking me.
I'm just going to call the humane society or the vet now and see what I can do about getting rid of her. Joe already ruined her - and the problem with him is, he doesn't seem to care or want to help. He just lets her get away with everything. He's never had a dog, so he doesn't understand. I had a wonderful dog already, and I don't need a monster to follow her up. I've just been at my wits end. I think I'm just too frustrated to even want to try with her anymore. and friendly advice: don't be rude to people. it's how you make enemies.
Is your dog friendly with children? Where in PA do you live? I am sure I could find her a great home, either with me (I might not be to good with people, but great with dogs.:D ) or someone I know. And she would also be started on hunting, which will run alot of that energy down. Well its something to think about, you can pm me if you are interested.
It might be better than taking the dog to a shelter.
 

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Whoah! After catching up on all of the posts on this topic, I agree it is probably in the dogs best interest at this point to re-home her.

You are obviously too frustrated with the situation to take the time to give her the love, attention and training she needs.

It seems to me that she is probably acting out like she is due to lack of love and attention. (You can give her all of the toys she wants, but when she is starving for your acceptance and love they are useless.) She is probably also receiving nothing but scolds when you are around, since it sounds like she does so much wrong.

I pray you find her a good home, as that is what she deserves and I am sorry she has had to go through this transition, but I hope things end up better for both of you.
 
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I don't get how she chews completely through a leash with you standing right there. Correct her when she goes for it. Let her get used to the leash.

Please don't leave her in her crate for 22 hours. Rehome her if she's not working for you. She could be someone else's dream dog.
 
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WE don't have to be rude?

You don't deserve this poor dog.

How bout you PM me your address, and I'll just come and get her.
 

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ahhhh 22 hours, and to think i was freaking out about maybe leaving my dog in a crate for 5,
your lucky you have a dog, i've been waiting 3 years to get a dog.
i think it might be good for your dog if you give it to a shelter or someone from this site,
just think of how you'll be helping a cute little creature improve its life, and i'm sure it will take a wait off you mind as well,
hope everything works out for your dog
 
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you people don't get where i'm coming from. i love this dog, she gets so much attention, so much love, but i can't watch her 24 hours a day. this is not even my dog, which i think is where my frustration comes from - it's my boyfriend's dog, and he does nothing with her! When I cam back, this dog used the furniture as a jumgle gym set, crawling and jumping all over everything, chewing on everything - hell, she was thinking the coffee table was her bed, cause he let her lay on it. the end tables, everything. i'm surprised she didn't lay on the dining room table (which he already let her destroy). he does nothing to train her. it's his dog, yet i have to deal with all the behavoir problems. she eats everything, pisses and shits everywhere, and he doesn't seem to think it's a problem. and screw all you people, you don't know me, i LOVE dogs. I had a wonderful dog up until last may when I lost her at 16. so don't tell me i don't deserve this dog - she's not even mine. I've just gotten too frustrated to the point where I am at a loss and I have no idea what to do. I love the dog and I love my boyfriend, but I also love my sanity. I've tried talking to him about it but he doesn't get it. How the heck can I train a dog when he turns around and lets her get away with everything I'm trying to unteach her???
you were the ones that said to crate train her, to keep her supervised as long as i was home. 22 hours was an exaggeration, people, get with it, my god. if she still manages to destroy things, even with me attempting to scold her for it while I am standing right there, what in the living world am i supposed to do?!?
 
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Is your dog friendly with children? Where in PA do you live? I am sure I could find her a great home, either with me (I might not be to good with people, but great with dogs.:D ) or someone I know. And she would also be started on hunting, which will run alot of that energy down. Well its something to think about, you can pm me if you are interested.
It might be better than taking the dog to a shelter.
oh and i really don't think you want this dog around children. :( she would probably end up injuring them as she has injured me and the cat. Oh yeah, she doesn't get along well with cats either.
 

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Try contacting a springer rescue to see if they can take her. It's probably your best bet. I can very well imagine what a dog that was allowed to do anything for 11 months would be like, so I agree that if you can't train her as she should be and you can't watch her closely during the day it's probably better to rehome her. I think at this point she needs someone to constantly watch her and teach her basic commands, so I can understand it's pretty overwhelming.
 

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doesn't get it. How the heck can I train a dog when he turns around and lets her get away with everything I'm trying to unteach her???
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Sounds like your boyfriend needs to be trained....anyway I still feel like this dog would be better off in a home where she will get CONSISTENT training. Imagine how confused this poor dog must be...
 
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1) dog needs a new home.

2) You need a new BF.

Stick with this one I guarantee you will be sorry later.
 
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Just wanted to jump in here. She sounds like she can be a wonderful dog with some work. There have been many great suggestions mentioned here, let's focus on the positive can we? A few suggestions of my own, sorry if some have already been mentioned. And sorry if you've already made your decision, I wasn't sure and decided to post any ways.

First of all, she's a springer with a ton of energy. Most of the behaviour problems (of course this could be your boyfriends fault lol) are coming from all her pent up energy. She is bored and her mind could be going crazy. You need to make sure you are exercising her mentally & physically. Get her some interactive treat balls, and put all of her food in it. So for breakfast put her food in them, then again at dinner. In the wild, they hunt down their food, kill the food, then spend their time getting the meat off the bones. Interactive treat balls are a lot of the same. It gives them a challenge and as they are chewing on it, they let out stress and frustration. It challenges their mind. Very healthy for them, and keeps them busy for a while. There are many choices out there. 2nd, more walks. At least 45 min. a day if possible. Or if she enjoys to play fetch, take her out and play for at least 15-25 min. Try an get her out exercising more. If you can, maybe get into agility or something. I'd get into an obedience class or something to get some obedience in her. As for manners in the house, we realize you can't watch her 24-7, that's where the crate comes in. lol this is how we meant to use it. While she is out, have her on a leash. I'd suggest leather, or a chain so it's harder to chew. You can spray something she doesn't like on the leash, then watch her. When she goes to chew on the leash, tell her NO and redirect her attention. This would be another good time to give her a bone, kong, or interactive treat ball. This will keep her busy. When you see her chewing or interacting with one of her toys she CAN play with, mark the behaviour with a YES! and give her a treat. Praise her. Even when she is on the leash with you, you still need to keep an eye on her. If you need to do something or Can't watch her for a little bit, put her in the crate. When you get done, let her out and take her straight outside. Stay out there for like 15 min. Don't walk her, walk shouldn't be the time to go. Stand around and wait for her to go. If she goes, reward big time, and stay out there a little bit longer and maybe reward her for something else she's doing good like staying by you, coming when called, sitting, looking at you... etc... Or give her a toy. Then take her back inside. This way she doesn't think once she goes to the bathroom, outside time is over. Dogs that figure this out sometimes wait as long as they can to go to the bathroom so they don't have to go back inside. This lets them know they can go to the bathroom and then still get to be outside. They will start going faster rather than longer. Now, if the dog doesn't go in 15 min. Bring her in and put her back in her crate. Wait 15 min. Then take her back out. Repeat this until she goes. Repeat the outside stuff, then bring her in. Once she's back in, keep her on a leash once again and keep an eye on her. As for jumping on furniture and such, teach her an off comand. And if you want to allow her on furniture, then teach her it's okay to get on them, but only when You say it's okay for them to. This should all help tremedously in her training, and you'd be on your way to a well behaved dog. You get what you put into a dog :). This behaviour can be changed, you only have to put the time into it. I can understand the whole boyfriend thing and him not helping. You have to make sure he knows either to take part in the training, be consistent with you, and be on the same page, or don't ever let him be alone with the dog. You take control. I sure hope this helped!!! And if all else fails, find her a good home :). Good luck.

EDIT: Also wanted to add to start rewarding Everything you see her do that You Like. So if she is sleeping, reward her!, If she's laying down being good; Reward her!, If she is sitting instead of jumping all around; Reward her!, chewing on an acceptable toy; Reward her!, Gets off something when you tell her to: Reward her! ....etc..... Many examples here, use your imagination. It's amazing how much good a dog actually does when you look for it. Think about what You Do want your dog to do, not what you don't want them to do. Instead of jumping on the Table, what would you rather her do? Go lay down on her own dog bed? Get on the couch instead? Lay in her crate? What steps could you take to get towards that goal? Need help? Contact me :)

~Amy~
 

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After reading throught this again, I also think the problem is down to boredom and a lack of exercise, and probably stress.

A tired dog is a good dog, or so the saying goes!

A dog can also pick up on your mood. If you are as angry and frustrated as you appear, your dog will pick up on this and react accordingly. It can be pretty distressing for her also, which in turn will lead to unwanted behaviour and often toilet problems :)

Either work HARD on being calm, and continuing her training in a peacful manner (which may be hard if the dog is becoming the bain of your life!), or give her to someone who can give her 24hr attention.

Maybe getting an adult, already trained, less energetic breed could help?

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RedyreRottweilers said:
1) dog needs a new home.

2) You need a new BF.

Stick with this one I guarantee you will be sorry later.
I was also thinking #2. And #1 makes sense too.

If my hubby disregarded all my wishes, and ignored me, he would be the one in the kennel.;)
But then again we are only getting a one sided story, he might be better with the dog than she is. Maybe armyants needs to get her boyfriend on here. Maybe we could help him and he might at least listen and not be in denial about the possibility the dog can learn. Heck if she treats her boyfriend like the dog, maybe thats why he doesn't give her respect. Maybe he should be the one thinking about #2.
 

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Gee wiz. My beautiful Doberman, the love of my life, my heart dog didn't get reliable until he was almost a year old. I never once blamed him or thought of getting rid of him. I did the best I could and finally he got it. I've had many dogs and none took anywhere close to that long to housebreak. I just figured he was slower to mature that way. He's terribly smart so it wasn't that. I never thought it was his fault or that he wasn't a nice dog.

I hope you re-home this dog. Then your problems will be over. Maybe someone who has more patience and love of dogs can give him a good home. Dogs need exercise and training and bonding. If you can't stand the dog, like it sure sounds, nothing is going to happen for you or this dog.....find him a new home.
 

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