Help us choose a breed

Discussion in 'The Dog Breeds' started by Holm, Aug 3, 2006.

  1. Holm

    Holm New Member

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    Hello there!
    My family and I have decided to get a dog (we’ve never had one before). But we are having problems deciding the right breed for us, and we would like you’re help. So here’s our info:
    We are a family of four people (two 16 year old boys) and we live in a two storey house, with a pretty large yard. We are all away from the house 6- 8 hours a day (due to school and work), and so we are planning on making a fenced area outside with a doghouse, where the dog can stay when we’re away, so it doesn’t have to stay inside.

    However we are fairly active people, and are planning to give the dog at least two walks a day, and we also have access to large green areas and water where we can play with it. So we would like a dog that is fairly active as well(although not hyper, as quiet evenings in front of the TV are appreciated).

    Other then that, we would like it to be medium to large sized, and friendly to other animals, as we have a cat.

    Thanks in advance.
    Ps. we have already talked about a Labrador/golden retriever, but we find it a bit to ordinary.
     
  2. suzanne118

    suzanne118 Dog Crazy

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    what about

    1)Cavalier king Charles spaniels
    as i own 2, they r fantastic dogs, active (but not too active) they love to play lots of games, and some hv no problem being left alone
    and they also enjoy a relaxing evening sitting on your lap.
    they r great with other animals, as long there r socalised from puppies
    they are best with older children, as they r small dogs.

    i also suggest the Golden retriever they are fantastic dogs, i hv never owned one but i know a lot about the breed
    they love to have a good run, and a game with their owner, some are ok when left alone, they make great family dogs.
     
  3. Zoom

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    www.k9country.com/perl/dogBreed.com

    This breed selector is an excellent place to start. That way you have an idea of what breeds would be a good match, and you can take that information and use it if and when you look through shelters. I highly recommend going through a breed rescue if you are wanting a purebred (that way there are fewer 'surprises' as most do a thorough evaluation). Don't discount the shelter dogs though! Two of my three are from shelters (the other is a breed rescue) and you really can benefit from someone else's mistakes!

    Good luck and keep us updated!
     
  4. Gempress

    Gempress Walks into Mordor

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    Good job doing research first!

    Given your schedules, I would go with a older dog--one at least 6 to 8 months old. Baby puppies are adorable, but they require a LOT of work and one-on-one attention. They don't handle being left alone like that very well.

    How about a rough-coated or smooth-coated collie? I think it would fit your needs perfectly. And I agree with Zoom, check out your local breed rescue groups. That's the best source to find an older purebred dog. Or, you can also try contacting some reputable breeders in your area. They occassionally have older dogs available.
     
  5. stevinski

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    australian cattle dog
    australian shepherd
    Sheltie
    Rough collie
    Springer spaniel
    cocker spaniel

    like any of these?
     
  6. colliewog

    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever (aka "Toller")
     
  7. AusCatDogs_4Ever

    AusCatDogs_4Ever but please call me Aus.

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    I wouldn't recommend an Australian Cattle Dog. Yes, they are great for active families with older children and are fairly calm and inactive indoors, but they are not good for a first time dog owner. They can be dominant and hard-headed. Also some like to "herd" cats, and can't really be trusted alone with them. They need a LOT of space to run off leash, so I don't know if a "pretty large" yard would be big enough. I own an ACD and they are an awesome breed, but definatly not for everyone.
     
  8. ~Tucker&Me~

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    Aussie Shepherd are no good either as they are velcro dogs and do not do well when left alone. Tollers are pretty active as well, though I don't know if they would be a good match.

    www.petfinder.com

    ^Your perfect dog is waiting for you :).

    ~Tucker
     
  9. Aussie Red

    Aussie Red Rebel With Cause

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    could not agree more. These are dogs that are best with experienced owners as they can get very pushy and out of control in the wrong hands. They need experienced owners who can spend alot of time with them and know how to crub their stubborness and put it to work. An ACD left alone can become a real problem.
     
  10. Toller_08

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    I don't reccommend Tollers (Nova Scotia Duck Tolling Retriever) often, but so far, from your description they sound like they may be a suitable breed for you :) The Toller is a medium sized breed. Females are between 17-20" (preferably 18") tall, and weigh between 37-43lbs. Males are between 18-21" (preferably 19") and weigh between 45-51lbs.

    First, I'll post the top 10 reasons NOT to get a Toller though:

    Now, you said you have a cat...this says Tollers cannot live with a cat. However, most of the Tollers I personally know DO live with cats and do just fine, of course, with any dog it wouldn't be a great idea to leave the Toller and the cat together, unsupervised...but a Toller & cat relationship can and does work. I've loved Tollers all my life and have been researching them for atleast 10 years now...which is a long time considering I can't even have a purebred until 2008. Anyway, as was said in the above quote, Tollers are high energy, high drive dogs. They need something to do, or else they will find a way to amuse/entertain themselves. They can become destructive and barky if not stimulated enough each day. They require a lot of exercise, but they will lay down in the house while you want to watch TV or something. I have a Toller/Border Collie. She gets 2 jogs a day, aswell as a walk which ends up in a romp/play/run/obedience practice aswell in a nearby field. Now, they don't neccessarily NEED 2 jogs a day, that is jsut something I like to do. They DO need daily walks though and atleast an hour (preferably more) of playing/retrieving each day aswell as mental stimulation. Tollers love to work, they love to please. However, that being said, they do get bored if you repeatedly do the same thing over and over again and they thrive on learning new things. Tollers can also be pretty stubborn and often their intelligence can do more harm than good...they're almost too intelligent for their own good. Owning a Toller is like having a 2 year old child for 12-14 years. Tollers MUST be socialized tons and it is extremely wise to take them to puppy classes and atleast one obedience class. If not, they can become very fearful around new things and I've known a few to become fear biters and barkers due to lack of socialization as a young pup. Socializing has to continue for the rest of the dogs' life aswell, not just as a pup. Tollers love to be with their family. I find that they, in general, much prefer people over other dogs. They don't like to be left alone for long periods of time, but a lot of breeds don't. Anyway, that is all I can think of to tell you at the moment...it's getting late (well it IS late, almost 2 am!). If you are interested in this breed and would like to know more, please don't hesitate to post any questions here or you can PM me :). I do think that the Toller would be a great dog for you and your family.
     
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  11. bubbatd

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    Don't give up on a Golden or a Lab because they are " ordinary " .... they are popular for a reason. I agree with petfinder.com ...
     
  12. DanL

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    I don't like the idea of a dog house and fence to leave it outside when you are not home. Dogs can get into a lot of trouble in a situation like that- barking, property destruction, etc. You are better off crate training until the dog is trustworty indoors.
     
  13. Hailey

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    Ok, are you getting a dog, or a puppy? If you are getting a dog I suggest you go to the shelter, They have plenty of unique looking dogs there, as they have alot of mixed breeds, that are great for a first time owner. Also if it is a puppy your going for, I strongly suggest you wait til next summer, that way you will be on summer break plenty of time to train a new puppy.
     
  14. LabBreeder

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    don't rule out the Lab. They are easy to train, get along well with people and other animals, love water/playing/walks but can veg out in front of the t.v. as well. Since you don't have time to raise a puppy I'd suggest an older, 6 months minimum, dog. Still kind of puppyish, but grown enough to know better (in most cases). I'd also suggest not leaving the dog out in this heat for any long amount of time unless you can provide an unlimited source of water and cool shaded areas.
     
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    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    Exactly why I didn't agree with the Collie recommendation. Not a good outdoors alone dog.
     
  16. Holm

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    Thanks for the replies so far guys, you have been very helpfull :)
    We are going to discuss it in the familiy this weekend, and we have taken the lab back into consideration.
    But keep the advice coming :D
     
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    Shelters and rescues are a wonderful place to start looking for the right family dog!

    Another breed you might consider - and you don't see them so much anymore - is the Irish Setter.
     
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    if you are going to be away for a long time everyday

    you might want to consider one of the more independant breeds,
    the most independant group of dog is the terrier group, but they aarent all tht big in their apperance but some of them can get pretty big, i know my norder terrier is great with kids and is very independant and ok with being left alone in the day but we dont leave him alone for tht long.

    my trianer has irish setter for show, they are gorgeous dogs, very sweet natured.
     
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    I wouldn't really recomend a terrier to a first time dog owner... I agree with Dan on leaving the dogs outside...

    I also agree with Renee's suggestion - Irish Setters are awesome dogs, especailly the adult rescues ;)

    Cocker's from Good breeders, or rescues, or amazing family dogs. Than can be very very active when they want/need to be (I'm tired from our hike right now!) and yet can be very mellow in the house.

    The goldens and labs are popular for a reason... you might want to reconsider that :)
     
  20. Holm

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    Funny you should mention the Irish setter, as we have been researching on dog breeds ourselves and find the setter very nice. It seems to match our desires quite nicely in terms of behaviour and so on, but i havent found any clear answers as to whether it handles being home alone well. Anyone know?
     

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