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I've been using this forum for about a month, but I never properly introduced myself. My boyfriend and I just got a Yorkshire Terrier named Winston, so we need plenty of advise and help! Although we watch "The Dog Whisperer" religiously, you can always use more...
 

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Hi and welcome to Chazhound! I'd love to see some pics of your yorkie. Most of us here are not fans of the dog whisperer to put it lightly. He is way too harsh for me! I'm sure you'll learn a lot here and I hope you enjoy the forum :D
 

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Welcome to Chazhound!
I agree with Maxy... ;) There is lots to learn here :)
 

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Most of us here are not fans of the dog whisperer to put it lightly. He is way too harsh for me!
Cesar Millan doesn't verbally or physically punish dogs, though. I don't understand what's harsh about his methods. Is there something I haven't heard about that he does? Or is it just that most people on this forum tend to disagree with the whole "pack psychology" theory? I know that he made a name for himself rehabilitating particularly violent dogs that come from less managable breeds without using physical force.

Also - I can't find my USB camera cord, so I don't have current pictures. I'll try to rifle around and find it and post some soon, though...
 

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Cesar Millan doesn't verbally or physically punish dogs, though. I don't understand what's harsh about his methods. Is there something I haven't heard about that he does? Or is it just that most people on this forum tend to disagree with the whole "pack psychology" theory? I know that he made a name for himself rehabilitating particularly violent dogs that come from less managable breeds without using physical force.

Also - I can't find my USB camera cord, so I don't have current pictures. I'll try to rifle around and find it and post some soon, though...
People seem to either love him or hate him. I watch his show, I don't agree with everything he does but I think he can do somethings incredibly. Alot of people on Chaz seem to not like him but I tend to form my own opinion of things and not jump on a bandwagon of sorts. I am on another forum who love him and some hate him. I don't see him as "abusive" either, But like I am saying I don't love him...... nor do I hate him.... did you get all that LOL!!! Anyways, Welcome to Chaz! I hope you enjoy your stay, your pup is adorable!
 

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Cesar Millan doesn't verbally or physically punish dogs, though.
I believe he does, not every time, but often. He is always jabbing them in the neck with his fingers and rolling them on their back (the alpha roll) forcing them to submit to him (do NOT try at home). Some of us go with the pack theory others don't but we mostly all agree we are not dogs and our dogs do not see us as such so "biting" and forcing him to roll on his back as other dogs would do is not what we should be doing to train them to listen to us. I am of course not saying you are wrong in watching him, your training techniques are yours but I would never do much of what he does, and do not recommend it. I also believe I have heard that off the camera he is somewhat different with the dogs and uses less force but whether or not that is true I don't know. Also what one person sees as physical force another does not. I think alpha rolling is very much physical force but someone else might only see hitting as such. He uses a lot of choke and prong collars and instead of really teaching the dog I notice he just makes him scared to do much. Stick around and you will learn more about how we feel on this stuff, I'm sure you'll enjoy it here. But I beg you don't start another thread on Cesar/dog Whisperer, we have plenty. If you do a search for his name or the show you will find plenty. ONc you see both sides you can form your own opinion :)

I am a purely positive trainer (not professional or anything) and find if you can train a dog without physical pain and fear then why not do it?
 

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Okay! I've finally searched the entire apartment and found my camera cord, and I have pictures of Winston, if anyone cares to see them.





(I'm posting three more in the next post)
 

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This one I took just today, so this is the most recent:


If anyone has problems with the picture size let me know and I'll see if I can actually figure out how to do something about it...
 

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Oh, Winston is ADORABLE! What a cute little guy! Are you planning on growing his coat out, or are you going to get him clipped?
 

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And thanks for the welcome-y welcome-ing!

To assuage any fears, I should probably say that while I do watch the Dog Whisperer, I don't personally use any of his methods. We try to bribe Winston with onion bits rather than "tsk!"s. I wasn't aware that Cesar's methods could be damaging to a dog (in fact all of his stories seem to be success stories), but I'll certainly look up the posts here and see what I find. Either way, Winston's too cute to roll over for any reason other than to rub his belly...
 

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Are you planning on growing his coat out, or are you going to get him clipped?
Clipping FOREVER! I'm not a big fan of the furball Yorkies. My boyfriend Chris and I were so depressed when Winston's left ear came up. I guess we just aren't that big on the Yorkie look, but he's so small and hypoallergenic and really energetic - perfect breed for hyperactive, dog-allergic college students in a small apartment.
 

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Hi and welcome to Chazhound! Glad to have you here! Winston is so cute! :)
Yes, onions are bad for dogs, and I'm sure you can find some healthier treats that he loves too. ;)
 

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ok, I promise I'm not trying to pick on you or anything but onions are a big NO. Here are some links on it http://www.petalia.com.au/templates/...ry_no=257#ct-4
http://www.jlhweb.net/BOSS/onions.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...21/HO63641.DTL
:yikes: WOW. I swear we looked them up first and didn't find anything on them, and we always fed onion to my pom when I was a kid and no problems. THANK YOU for showing me this, because I didn't find anything when I looked earlier! He seems okay, we had some chopped up for stuffed peppers and only gave him a small amount. We'll watch him within the next couple of days...
 

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