German Shepherd through the years

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Great pics! I LOVE watching dogs working on the sleeve, especially GSDs and Mals. :D
Max is so gorgeous! I've only personally known two GSDs from Czech working lines, but I've been super impressed with them. Neither, though both are seniors now, have ever developed problems with their hips or elbows. I don't know if that's a trend in those lines or a fluke, but it's very pleasing.
 

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Max is definitely intimidating. Very intimidating. She is also very sharp. She doesn't have as clear of a head as my west german working line dog does. I have found that common in the Czech dogs in my experience. Max is much quicker to bite and think later, whereas Judge thinks first and then reacts(most of the time). IMHO Judge has a much clearer head than Max. He is safer in public and events. Max is safe as long as she is under complete obedience control the whole time. To her, it is her job to protect her person and that is all she is there for, other people do not interest her. Judge is very social and friendly to all people until a threat is made.

I prefer the West German Working lines crossed with a Czech bred dog. I crossed Judge with a Czech bitch and was very pleased with the results. The more pedigrees I see crossed like that, the more I like them. Here are a couple pictures of Judge's first litter, they were Czech/West German Working bred.






 

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I've also noticed that about Czech dogs. Both in the area and from other people across the country (such as yourself lol) have said that, so I don't think that's a fluke at all. Knox is very easy going in public, clear headed dog, but with the helper he is very defensive, not really wanting to work in prey kind of dog. So that's why I'm wondering why people are saying the decoy must be the dogs best friend, because Knox does not want to be his friend, he sees him as a threat to take out. (None of which I have a problem with, and wrong thread really but I'm rambling lol)

Anyway I much prefer west German working dogs with a little bit of Czech in there. Straight west German dogs seem to be more heavy in bone than I particularly like (though I have been accused of picking the most Malinois like GSDs I can find lol) so take that all with a grain of salt :p
 

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I always think I don't care much for GSDs then I see pictures of working line sables. I wish you ran into more well bred GSDs out and about. The only working line dog I've met was very very impressive. But most pet GSDs are just not my thing at all.
 

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I always think I don't care much for GSDs then I see pictures of working line sables. I wish you ran into more well bred GSDs out and about. The only working line dog I've met was very very impressive. But most pet GSDs are just not my thing at all.
FWIW GSDs are one of my favorite breeds and most I meet out and about aren't my thing at all either ;)
 

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A lot of the sloping back has to do with being stacked. Judge has a flat, straight back until he is stacked, then it appears to be sloped. The GSD as a breed is supposed to have a sloped back to a point. They are also supposed to have some rear angulation. The problem is that breeders are taking it to the extreme. That is why some of the West German Showlines have such roached backs and the ASLs have such horrid rear angulation.

I prefer a nice working line dog to other GSDs but I have found some of the West German showlines very nice as well!
 

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A lot of the sloping back has to do with being stacked. Judge has a flat, straight back until he is stacked, then it appears to be sloped. The GSD as a breed is supposed to have a sloped back to a point. They are also supposed to have some rear angulation. The problem is that breeders are taking it to the extreme. That is why some of the West German Showlines have such roached backs and the ASLs have such horrid rear angulation.
It does to some degree but it isn't entirely the stacking. The more "sloped" looking dogs have much longer rear legs which can be pulled out much further from the body than a dog like Judge. You couldn't stack Judge in a way that would make him look like a GSDCA Grand Victor because he doesn't the the length of leg and the angulation for that.

I prefer a nice working line dog to other GSDs but I have found some of the West German showlines very nice as well!
My German Showline girl was awesome. Everything a GSD should be :) If I ever get another though, I'd plan on a West German working line dog from someone truly looking for working (instead of sport) temperament. I just think I could most easily find what I want from those lines.
 

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It's probably the mom in me, but worry about how that dog landed.
No, I'm not a mom, but watching its tail disappear out the side of the frame, I was thinking the same thing. Really incredible jump, though.
 

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It seemed like it was preparing itself correctly. The tail was acting as a rudder anyway. I'd have been more worried if it had NOT twisted around like that, because the twisting is normal for dogs adjusting their "flight" path and not twisting could be an off balance issue, neurological issue, ect.

But all looked well to me, except for the fact that the dog jumped so incredibly high. And CLEARED the object.
 

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Yeah, you can see the dog adjusting itself from jumping to landing (it also jumped at about the ideal time), and it was probably just fine, but since I didn't see it land I get all worried. I'm just like that. :eek:
 

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It seems this dog was known for his high jumping ability. Here's a video of him that s a bit longer: http://youtu.be/S6QUmalgurU and this one with different footage of the jumping and a few other tricks (other jumping and the dog rides a motorcycle with his owner): http://www.britishpathe.com/video/micky/query/dogs

Other videos showing early GSDs doing big jumps or other crazy things are on this same site:
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/dogs-of-peace-and-police/query/dogs

All kinds of interesting stuff here:
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/alsatian-dogs/query/dogs

GSD jumping off a 30' bridge into the water:
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/one-more-jumper-but-not-for-eve/query/dogs
 

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Those were super cool!

FTR You can see him landing from the gate jump twice and he lands fine (this is the 2nd Mickey video).

Thanks for posting Aleron I really enjoyed those.
 

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