George Zimmerman Found Not Guilty

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I just find it reprehensible that one man is acquitted and allowed to go back to his life without a peep from the Feds, politicians or the media and the other, who is also acquitted (despite malfeasance by the special prosecutor), is forced into hiding, has to wear a bullet proof vest and deal with death threats to himself and his family. Never hear a peep from Sharpton, Jackson, Holder or Obama on that issue...
 

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THIS ^^^^^ this is why I love my state. **** you Obama, Sharpton & Jessie Jackson for wanting to take away my right to defend myself

BTW this gives me RIGHT to fire upon trespassers, sorry ... But I am a woman who lives alone on 70 acres in the middle of BFE ... I am taking no chances.
No you don't...? You live with your parents. You've said so upteen billion times. And when you're not living with your parents, you're living with a bunch of other people at the track..



Anyway, I thought people said that in this case, the boy wasn't trespassing? So really that point is null..
 
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THIS ^^^^^ this is why I love my state. **** you Obama, Sharpton & Jessie Jackson for wanting to take away my right to defend myself

BTW this gives me RIGHT to fire upon trespassers, sorry ... But I am a woman who lives alone on 70 acres in the middle of BFE ... I am taking no chances.
Firing upon trespassers really has absolutely ZERO to do with this case or discussion btw.

Just because you have the legal right to do something doesnt make it morally right.
 

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Ah, but your not thinking of the affect of being a visible minority. Say, you have a town with 10,000 yellows and 500 reds move in to town. Every now and then, crime occurs caused by a yellow. It is expected, so when crime is reportedly done by a yellow and that yellow is at large, no one really blinks an eye to it. The yellows wont be suspicious of every yellow they see because they know that most yellows aren't anything to worry about and see each yellow as an individual. However, when the news report of a red committing a crime, it is totally different. Since they are so few to begin with, every red is seen as a potential suspect.

Even if white teens were doing the crime, any of them walking about would not be look at with suspicion like a black teen. Why? Because white people are look at as individuals. A white teen walking at night would be given the benefit of the doubt. Probably just walking home from a party or something. Crazy fools among them wont represent the whole group. A story of a white person doing something horrendous and there are comments against that one person. A black person do something horrendous, a good half the comments are against blacks as a whole. We suddenly aren't individuals but all potential criminals. It is that mindset is where the racial profiling begins.

I don't see Zimmerman as racist. I go by the original meaning of a "racist" and I wouldn't call Zimmerman that. I see him as prejudice.
Anyway, I really just came in here to say what an awesome post this is.
 

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No you don't...? You live with your parents. You've said so upteen billion times. And when you're not living with your parents, you're living with a bunch of other people at the track..
My grandmother is in failing health, when she passes away (which we fear is not far away :( ) my folks will move into town, thus leaving me the ranch. Though with all the family issues going on, my parents are hardly there anymore anyway. So it is kind of like living there by myself.

I only am at the track when OH is in town racing, that is only from about may to the middle of August, then from November through the rest of the winter. BUT once my folks move in, I won't be able to do that, either.

I find it interesting that you go out of your way to nitpick & give me crap about every little thing very time I post something ... Hmm, it says something about you.
 

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Firing upon trespassers really has absolutely ZERO to do with this case or discussion btw.

Just because you have the legal right to do something doesnt make it morally right.
referenced this because this whole fiasco with Zimmerman has made all the states with strong castle/ stand your ground laws start to question them. The ass hats in Washington don't understand, there isnnonpolice out here, & what police there are could take an hour or better to get here.
 

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I am reading this thread with interest...love it, don't have much to contribute myself though.

http://www.rc123.com/texas_castle_doctrine.html

THIS ^^^^^ this is why I love my state. **** you Obama, Sharpton & Jessie Jackson for wanting to take away my right to defend myself

BTW this gives me RIGHT to fire upon trespassers, sorry ... But I am a woman who lives alone on 70 acres in the middle of BFE ... I am taking no chances.
That law DOES NOT give you the right to fire upon a trespasser, or someone walking across your yard. If someone is actively engaged in breaking into your house, threatening you, or does not leave when asked to, you then have the right to use force to end the situation.
 

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All I have to do is state to them that this is private property (if there isn't a sign clearly posted) & that they are trespassing & that they must leave immediately, & give them a chance to do so, if they do not, them I have the right to use force.

The fine print of these laws csn very from city to city & county to county
 

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THIS ^^^^^ this is why I love my state. **** you Obama, Sharpton & Jessie Jackson for wanting to take away my right to defend myself

BTW this gives me RIGHT to fire upon trespassers, sorry ... But I am a woman who lives alone on 70 acres in the middle of BFE ... I am taking no chances.
You love your state because you think it allows you to shoot people?

Your love of violence is unsettling.

Honestly, I'm on the fence. We will always recognize race. We can choose if we make that negative or positive. Ignoring color seems foolish. You should be proud of who you are and that includes your race.

I'm a white woman. I will never know how it feels to be a black man. I won't pretend I can.

Racism exists. Stereotyping exists. Bad people exist.

This case seems more of a straw that broke the camels back thing than the sole reason for the uproar.

I'm not sure what to believe or think. It is a horrible situation and I hope something positive can come out of this negative case.

(I'm not as eloquent as others are, so hopefully I got my message across.)
 

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I just find it reprehensible that one man is acquitted and allowed to go back to his life without a peep from the Feds, politicians or the media and the other, who is also acquitted (despite malfeasance by the special prosecutor), is forced into hiding, has to wear a bullet proof vest and deal with death threats to himself and his family. Never hear a peep from Sharpton, Jackson, Holder or Obama on that issue...
Casey Anthony doesn't like to live that way either. That is what happens when a case gain media attention. Everybody, including homicidal loons, will hear about it. There were people who wanted to harm her too after she was acquitted, and people who think she deserves it.
 

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Casey Anthony doesn't like to live that way either. That is what happens when a case gain media attention. Everybody, including homicidal loons, will hear about it. There were people who wanted to harm her too after she was acquitted, and people who think she deserves it.

Casey Anthony isn't under federal investigation as far as I know...
 

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You love your state because you think it allows you to shoot people?

Your love of violence is unsettling.
I'm pretty sure she meant that she loves the fact that people in her state are given wide berth to defend themselves and their property. I'm not a gun owner but also love the fact that Indiana has similar laws. Enjoying self and home defense rights is not equal to loving violence.
 

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I'm pretty sure she meant that she loves the fact that people in her state are given wide berth to defend themselves and their property. I'm not a gun owner but also love the fact that Indiana has similar laws. Enjoying self and home defense rights is not equal to loving violence.
Yes, that's what I meant. We are not a Violent state (excluding the cities, but there is always more violence in the big cities) but I am proud of the fact that Texas believes its citizens should have the right to stand their ground.

This also protects my dogs if they ever (don't see this happening) but someone who was intruding or trying to harm me. This also applies to my vehicle ... Since a vehicle is also considered "personal property"
 

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Casey Anthony doesn't like to live that way either. That is what happens when a case gain media attention. Everybody, including homicidal loons, will hear about it. There were people who wanted to harm her too after she was acquitted, and people who think she deserves it.
And that somehow makes it okay to do to Zimmerman? My point is that if the President can weigh in on how if feels to be a black man in America, why couldn't he point out that violence is wrong and any death threats made against Zimmerman, his family, the jury and those unfortunate few whose address and phone numbers were wrongly posted as Zimmerman's (and were/still are being harassed) will be investigated and charged?
 

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And that somehow makes it okay to do to Zimmerman? My point is that if the President can weigh in on how if feels to be a black man in America, why couldn't he point out that violence is wrong and any death threats made against Zimmerman, his family, the jury and those unfortunate few whose address and phone numbers were wrongly posted as Zimmerman's (and were/still are being harassed) will be investigated and charged?

No, of course it isn't okay. It isn't okay to do that to Casey Anthony either. Unfortunately, there are some people out there who want to take justice into their own hands and create havoc for those they feel are wrong. The only reason the President commented on this story in the first place was because he was asked about it in a press conference.

Also, President Obama DID make a comment after the verdict was in to respect the decision.
 

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Here is the problem with your post and many people's post for that matter. You are looking at this issue in a colorblind light. You are assuming that things would be no different if you change the people involve.
Right back at you. You're ASSUMING they WOULD be different. The fatal flaw in the racism argument on this case is that NO WHITE PEOPLE were involved in the initial decision to NOT investigate & NOT press charges. The incident involve TWO minority males. The initial decision to NOT investigate further & to NOT press charges was made by a BLACK chief of police. The ONLY way to cry racism is to completely ignore the FACTS of the case.
 

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Right back at you. You're ASSUMING they WOULD be different. The fatal flaw in the racism argument on this case is that NO WHITE PEOPLE were involved in the initial decision to NOT investigate & NOT press charges. The incident involve TWO minority males. The initial decision to NOT investigate further & to NOT press charges was made by a BLACK chief of police. The ONLY way to cry racism is to completely ignore the FACTS of the case.

The chief of police who was fired for refusing to arrest Zimmerman and investigate was white. Here he is.

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/soci...-trayvon-martin-case-they-just-wanted-arrest#

I believe this whole case started with Zimmerman racially profiling Trayvon. I stated before that I do not believe he is racist, but I do believe he holds some strong prejudices. I do believe that the lack of investigation and arrest would not have occurred if Zimmerman was black and Trayvon was white, and I've explain myself enough in my past post the reasons why so no need to explain it again. Is it an assumption? Yep, but I strongly believe it to be true given my reasons.
 
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Right back at you. You're ASSUMING they WOULD be different. The fatal flaw in the racism argument on this case is that NO WHITE PEOPLE were involved in the initial decision to NOT investigate & NOT press charges. The incident involve TWO minority males. The initial decision to NOT investigate further & to NOT press charges was made by a BLACK chief of police. The ONLY way to cry racism is to completely ignore the FACTS of the case.
Where did you find the fact that the chief of police was black?

There are several facts you have posted in this thread that I have yet to see elsewhere......
 

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Where did you find the fact that the chief of police was black?

There are several facts you have posted in this thread that I have yet to see elsewhere......
The chief of police in this story Bill Lee. Lee tried to resign in March and then was fired in June. I'll let you decide if this matters... personally I don't think it does.



Christopher Serino - The lead investigator or this thing prior to getting transferred out.
of note: Serino said he felt pressured by several of his fellow police officers to press charges on Zimmerman when he believed there was not enough evidence to do so, and that one of the officers pressuring him was a friend of Martin's father



Sanford's current police chief Cecil E Smith
 

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