So... There are four Belgians in the classes on Thursday and I have to say I am head over heels for all of them. They are just plain awesome dogs! There are a handful of breeds that I watch people work with that have that spark (for lack of a better word) that I love. I find watching a lot of dogs of different breeds you notice trends and watching a lot of breeds training bores me to be honest. They're just too slow and too much work to get them interested. I also used to train with two mals at my last place and really liked them too. Anyways, I am rambling now. There are four of them- 3 tervs and one groendael. 2 of the tervs I've been able to spend a few months around and the groen and young terv are new. Spent quite some time talking to the lady with the young terv today both about papillons and belgians. I have been occasionally tossing around the idea of taking a break from papillons once Mia is gone (don't even want to think that far) and explore some of the higher prey drive larger dogs I am interested in. I am not sure I could go a dog's lifetime without a papillon though so it might never happen. It'll take some thinking. My next dog I am planning on a border collie most likely. Then probably nothing until after Summer goes and will either be a second BC or a smaller herding type like another sheltie or pyr shep or maybe even a cardi. Long story short, I'm interested in a belgian maybe way off in the future. My big question is if there is much of a difference between the two fuzzies? I know they're the same breed but in the US they're separate so has that made any kind of difference between the two? Also, how do they compare to working bred mals? I don't think I am the right owner for a mal bred for bite sports but the tervs seemed not any more energy than the other herding breeds running around. The young one didn't settle well but neither do any of the dogs I'm interested in. Any general information about them? Would agility be enough for a terv?