Food for dogs with skin problems?

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Are there any good foods for dogs with sensetive skin?

I have been feeding Innova Dry dog food and give my pup fish oil as supplement.


But our skin problems dont seem to get better, just worse. Anything else we can try?
 

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My vet explained to me that it is very common for puppies to have dandruff and dry skin problems on and off due to the growing they are doing. When they have a spurt all the nutrition and energy goes into growing which leaves the coat lacking for a bit. It may just be the pup is having a lot of growth spurts at this time. Gunnar's skin gets nice and then icky again, I find that grooming him daily helps a lot with spreading the oils and stimulating the glands for better oil production.
Not sure what kind of food you would need, maybe someone else will jump in.
 

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That maybe the cauase.


He has been having skin problems ever since he dropped his puppy fur.
 
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You might try one of Natura Pet's other lines. I believe it's Karma that is suggested for allergy prone dogs. You might even try switching to their EVO formulation. I've heard several people talk about how it helped. If it is your Ovcharka that has the dry skin I would try the EVO.

You might also check out Mordy's site and see what information she's got there.
 

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Renee750il said:
You might try one of Natura Pet's other lines. I believe it's Karma that is suggested for allergy prone dogs. You might even try switching to their EVO formulation. I've heard several people talk about how it helped. If it is your Ovcharka that has the dry skin I would try the EVO.

You might also check out Mordy's site and see what information she's got there.

I think ill buy a big bag of EVO as well.

I bought a small bag a while ago and he seemed to like it very much.

How much time should I give him to see any changes?
 

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He doesnt eat alot of dry food.

He eats meat/liver in the morning and a cup of dryfood at night.
 

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You could add some whole fish into his morning meal and that may help as well. I haven't heard of a RAW fed dog with skin/coat issues.
 

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You could add some whole fish into his morning meal and that may help as well. I haven't heard of a RAW fed dog with skin/coat issues.

Im starting to think its more of the climate we're living in :(
 
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Back off of the liver. The liver and kidneys are the organs that filter and store all the toxins that move through the body. Commercially raised beef - and chicken for that matter - are fed all sorts of chemicals, hormones and drugs to increase production and these things are stored in the livers of these animals. The liver could actually be the real culprit.

Your Ovcharka is like my Filas. The breed is not so 'highly bred' as the more well known breeds and is tuned to a more primitive diet, which is why, I think, they do particularly well on the EVO. They also seem to be more sensitive to the toxins found in commercial foods. Mine also get some raw meat as well - just no liver or kidneys, and the beef they get is organic from our farm. One of the reasons these dogs aren't for most is because they also have some subtle differences in their nutritional quirks - as well as all the other more obvious reasons ;)
 

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hmn ill take that as a note. :) Liver is about 20% of his morning diet actually.

Ill just give him more beef instead of liver then.
 
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:) Mine go out and supplement their diets with raw themselves on top of everything else, lol! Yesterday morning Bimmer and Shiva caught a HUGE groundhog together. The head on it was almost as big as Bimmer's :eek: He ate half and left half for Shiva. They're on the Extreme Raw diet some days . . . Kharma had a huge big jackrabbit for dinner the other night . . .
 

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oriondw said:
He doesnt eat alot of dry food.

He eats meat/liver in the morning and a cup of dryfood at night.
do you supplement the meat at all?

reading through these posts, i'm beginning to think his diet may overall not be very balanced if you feed only meat and liver in the morning and kibble at night.

this could be a mineral imbalance affecting the skin.
 

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do you supplement the meat at all?

reading through these posts, i'm beginning to think his diet may overall not be very balanced if you feed only meat and liver in the morning and kibble at night.

this could be a mineral imbalance affecting the skin.
By meat/liver, if it makes any difference?, i meant, all kinds of things: Chicken, Duck, some Turkey, Liver, Beef, No pork though.

We give him fish oil capsules as well.

The meat usually has some carrots around it as well.

What do you think im missing? Should add some vegetables to his diet?
 

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the main issue i'm concerned about is a possible mineral imbalance, since it looks to me like you are feeding boneless meat. the ratio of calcium to phosphorus in a dog's diet should be 1:1, but anywhere on a range of up to 2:1 is still acceptable.

if you feed meat without bones, the phosphorus content is automatically going to be higher than the calcium content, which doesn't only affect these two minerals, but also interaction with other minerals and vitamins. on top of that, a diet that contains too much unbalanced phosphorus is not good for the kidneys at all.

i highly recommend adding enough of a calcium supplement to the meat so you have a ratio of at least 1:1.
 

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Mordy said:
the main issue i'm concerned about is a possible mineral imbalance, since it looks to me like you are feeding boneless meat. the ratio of calcium to phosphorus in a dog's diet should be 1:1, but anywhere on a range of up to 2:1 is still acceptable.

if you feed meat without bones, the phosphorus content is automatically going to be higher than the calcium content, which doesn't only affect these two minerals, but also interaction with other minerals and vitamins. on top of that, a diet that contains too much unbalanced phosphorus is not good for the kidneys at all.

i highly recommend adding enough of a calcium supplement to the meat so you have a ratio of at least 1:1.

Oh i Didnt consider bones as being part of his diet, more like treats :p

Sorry. He eats about one cow bone a week ( full leg). He shreds it and eats it. :)
 

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Have you tried giving him some chicken quarters a few times a week? They have a very nice meat to bone ratio.
 

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Have you tried giving him some chicken quarters a few times a week? They have a very nice meat to bone ratio.
Hmn no, I've been advised against giving anything with chicken bones. Reason is they splinter and can scar/rapture intestines when swallowed. At least thats what I've been told and I tend to agree with it.


I bought him some Innova EVO food, and slowly transitioning him from his dry good to this one. Also stopped giving him liver.


Hope to see some improvement :D
 

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Only cooked bones splinter. Raw is fine.

The Innova EVO is great. I'm sure it will help you a lot.
 
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Feeding raw bones is fine, because they don't splinter. My girls eat raw chicken bones all the time and are perfectly fine :).
 

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