Feminist.... Are You One?

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  1. Dogdragoness

    Dogdragoness Happy Spring!!!!

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    There are guys who shave their legs, too ;)
     
  2. RD

    RD Are you dead yet?

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    I wish my roommate shaved his legs. I hate feeling his hairy legs brush against mine after I've just shaved. There's usually a small pillow fort between us in the bed, but if there isn't, I always touch man-legs and ugh! It's like a brillo pad!
     
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    meepitsmeagan Meagan & The Cattle Dog Crew

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    I just wanted to say that I NEVER knew that song was about meth. I feel so sheltered.

    k, return to the normal program.
     
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    Ok, late to the thread BUT

    Yes, according to Zoom I am a feminist. I give two ****'s whether someone wants to stay home and parent or go out and work. I actually could care less about anything anybody does. If they are happy, then why should anyone else care what they do (be it be a SAHM, a 9-5er, who they sleep with, how many they sleep with, etc male or female)

    As for the Pink song, I (a female) want to slap the shizz out of my fiance (also female) at least once a month. Would I, hell no! But does she sometimes drive me to that point? You bet your butt she does! Lol

    I love music... just in general. I am a pacifist and couldn't fight unless my life literally depended on it. But, I'll give you a few excerpts of some of my favorite songs

    All three of these (I could give about a hundred examples though) are songs that are catchy. The Robin Thicke song mentioned earlier is the same deal. Insanely catchy. I grew up listening to tons of music. From my parents stuff from the 70's, to my sisters stuff (she is 13 years older then me) to stuff my friends listened to.


    Also, Fat Bottomed Girls anyone? Pretty sure there was never a blowup because some man (who, granted, was gay, but that is besides the point LOL) sang about his big ol naughty nanny who made him a bad boy lol
     
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    I think woman are each others worst enemy. They seem to judge each other much more than men judge each other. I feel I have never been discriminated in the work place but I have seen many more woman take advantage of being a parent in the work place then men. Calling in sick and leaving early so much more than other workers then complaining when someone else who showed up everyday and gave it 100% gets a promotion over them.
    I think people have to realize that you can't have it all sometimes. I have had other mothers make snide remarks about me being a full time mother, and I have seen stay at home mothers make snide remarks about working mothers. Instead of supporting each other, they make everything into a competition.
    We should be treating each other as human beings more than sexes.
     
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    A. What does feminism have to do with shaving?
    B. What's wrong with CHOOSING not to shave?

    Sorry, I'm a little frustrated that feminists are associated with CHOOSING not to wear a bra and CHOOSING not to shave one's legs. And that is apparently bad or gross... :confused:

    Feminism is about choice, after all. If you truly support choice, then you accept it when someone chooses something different than you would. That's what it's all about.

    Personally, I ONLY wear a bra in public - because I HATE wearing it. When I walk in the door, it comes off. It's binding and uncomfortable. But everyone should be aware that bra-burning in the sixties is pretty much a myth. The Myth of Bra-Burning


    Also, I haven't shaved for probably 30 years. I (and my husband) find uber-smooth legs kind of gross to the touch. It's all a matter of culture. In modern history, (the US, basically), shaving started as a marketing campaign to sell razors:

    It started with an article released May, 1915, in Harper's Bazaar. Words expressed in the article such as "objectionable hair" led women to begin shaving under their arms. Fashion did play a role in this transition because the style at the time was sleeveless tops.

    Razor sales quickly doubled and the campaign was a tremendous success. Over the next several decades as skirt lines began to inch upward, the practice of shaving the legs became more widespread.


    Read more: http://www.ehow.com/facts_5340337_history-behind-women-shaving-legs.html#ixzz2bBxUTQK3


    Our culture raises us to think that women are supposed to do all these unnatural things to our bodies to be more attractive. We color, curl or straighten our hair (because what we have naturally isn't good enough or pretty enough), we tan and wear colorful products on our face (because our natural color isn't good enough or pretty enough), we have plastic inserted into our bodies (because our natural shape isn't good enough or pretty enough), we pluck hair from our faces and shave the hair off of our bodies, (because we are, naturally, not good enough or pretty enough).

    I support a woman's right to CHOOSE to do any of the above and I won't put them down because of it. But I do NONE of it. Because naturally, I am good enough and pretty enough. I don't live this way because I'm a feminist or as some kind of rebellion. I simply prefer the more natural approach and don't make my choices based on societal pressure... And it's sad to see that my choices are thought of as something terrible.

    I'm not mad or anything, just getting my thoughts out there. :p

    Oh, one more thing... I've wanted to slap my husband MANY times. My dogs, too! There's a WORLD of difference between the feeling of frustration and the ACT.

    That is all. :D
     
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    Yes.

    And yes.
     
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    ^This too.
     
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    Yes, well said.

    It kind of befuddles me that feminism is equated with something like shaving one's legs. Sometimes I shave, sometimes I don't. But I always expect to be treated like a human being.
     
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    ~Jessie~ Chihuahua Power!

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    I had no idea either until a few years ago!
     
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    I'm a feminist through and through. I don't care if that means people think I have hairy legs (I do sometimes, but what's it matter) or that I burn bras (nothing wrong a little pyrotechnics ;)), or whatever.
    As long as they know that I am fighting the fight for equality, I am whatever "type" of feminist they imagine.
     
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    that's the beauty of music, it can have any meaning you want it too.

    To me, meth was a part of that song, but it wasn't what the song was about. It's about relationships with people, with drugs, with sex, with life itself. Wanting more, finding it it's not what you thought, wanting to go back. Looking for happiness from outside and when it's not there, wanting something else, etc. So much meaning from that song.
     
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    This this this this! It is physically impossible to be the best employee in the world and the best parent in the world. You can be good at both--but it's not fair to expect all the promotions if you also expect to chaperone all the field trips.

    I saw a lot of parents at my old job get really upset that the project wasn't excited that they wanted to take days off for school plays, soccer games, and family dinners. Sorry--when the work culture is people willing to work 60+ hour work weeks (and often weekends), your 32 hours in a week aren't cutting it, and eventually they're going to find someone to replace you who is willing to work the extra hours. If you value time with your family that much (which is great, you should), then you need to choose a career/job that is more accommodating/less demanding.
     
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    That brings up a whole other issue lol...which to me is what is driving a lot of the issues we see today.

    A career or work should not be valued (by society) more than a family. Work hours etc are getting crazy again here. The time that is spent out of the home is crazy. The home (whatever that means to each family) is no longer the central point in our lives.

    (And to make the above clear....no, of course this doesnt meam that individuals do not have the right to chose one over the other but on a whole, society is on careers side which bothers me greatly.)
     
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    But the career field has ALWAYS been notorious for long hours. It was consulting, which has a reputation second only to investment banking for long hours and crazy fast promotions and pay raises. You don't go into consulting because you want a good work/life balance. You go in because you want to make money.

    If you want to be home at 6:00 for dinner every night, that's great! But then you need to choose a job that gives you that as an option. Find a smaller company to work for, choose a different field to work in, or accept that other people are going to take the promotions you wanted.

    It's like becoming an ER doctor and then getting upset that you have to be on call 24/7. Don't choose a career that doesn't mesh with having a family if your priority is having a family.
     
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    Oh I was speaking generally....not about specifics. Even in "lower level" or jobs that SHOULD be able to offer flex time etc often that is not the case.
     

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