Expecting another litter...

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  1. vomdominus

    vomdominus Prey Drive's a BITCH!

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    ...but not out of Annie.

    Ty is going to be siring another litter soon in cooperation with another local breeder. He has a very good quality red and sable saddleback girl with a PPD cert and a solid working pedigree. We're expecting her to come into season sometime in December or January.

    We expect saddle back pups and maybe a sable, as Ty is heterozygous for both patterns.

    I know a bunch of you PM'd me about pups from the last Ty x Annie litter, but said you didn't have time to get ready. I figured you same folks would like advanced warning about this litter.

    I don't know anything yet about how much the pups will cost or what not, since this isn't my litter. If anyone is curious, I can keep you folks updated on it's progress!


    (ps- if I've broken any rules by posting this, mods please feel free to delete)

    edit- dammit! I'm in breeds, not breeding
     
  2. bubbatd

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    I'm sure that you have checked her out well . How old is she ???
     
  3. vomdominus

    vomdominus Prey Drive's a BITCH!

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    She's 3 1/2. This will be her first litter. She's got a PPD and a BH, and will soon go SchH1. She's got so many V's and VA's in her pedigree I think I'm looking at a saw blade.

    The only caveat that could kill this breeding is that her xrays are still at OFA. If they come back clear, it's ON! lol (edit- I'm not worried, all her ancestors are mostly a-normal with a few a-fast normals)
     
  4. bubbatd

    bubbatd Moderator

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    Sounding good !!! I had to turn down many !!!
     
  5. Dakotah

    Dakotah Kotah BEAR

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    Whoo Hoo!
    I love love love love love your dogs vomdominus!

    I hope this litter is what you expect!
     
  6. vonDominus, how old is your bitch Annie who has the puppies now.

    Her second litter, right?
     
  7. DogstarAcademy

    DogstarAcademy New Member

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    Ty is very handsome! I might be interested in a sable pup- can you PM me his OFA numbers (did she get prelim'd) and a link to the pedigree?
     
  8. Squishy22

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    Awesome. I'll be keeping my eyes open for future updates. ;)

    I have one question about age and breeding, because I do not know much about it. I know females must be 2 years and that makes sense. At that age she would be fully mature enough to carry a healthy litter, but why must males be 2 as well? Are their sperm not mature yet or something? I dont understand. I mean, they dont have to carry or anything. Or is it because health testing cannot be completed until age 2?
     
  9. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    You can't health test things like hips till they are 2.

    Looks like Annie won't be 2 till January and has seemingly had 2 litters?

    Also, if the puppies from the last litter were to be going with AKC registration.. why are neither dog in the AKC database? Are they named something different for the AKC?
     
  10. Squishy22

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    Gotcha.

    And.... :yikes:
     
  11. xpaeanx

    xpaeanx Active Member

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    ^^^^ I'm not sure where it says annies age... I tried looking

    But the dog he's breeding to isn't annie and is 3 1/2 yrs old... so I dont' see what's wrong with that....
     
  12. Squishy22

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    Hopefully he will drop by soon, to set the facts straight. ;)
     
  13. Beanie

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    Annie WAS bred before and has possibly been bred twice.
    That's what is being questioned. =>

    And IMHO ethics of every single breeding reflect on a breeder as a whole.
     
  14. xpaeanx

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    I didn't see anywhere that stated annies age, and I couldn't find one... so that's why I didn't understand. But where her age is stated was recently pointed out to me.
     
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    drmom777 Bloody but Unbowed

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    According to his previous thread:

    She's three in January, Ty's five in November.

    So Annie will be three in January
     
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    For reference:
    http://chazhound.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1195632&postcount=14

    Everybody should read that post carefully, and then make sure we're here to EDUCATE and help rather than attack, I think. =>
    Not that anybody is, but just a friendly reminder that we should all play nice... especially since the mods just had their hands full yesterday, LOL.
     
  17. release the hounds

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    dogs aren't made on paper. I've come across more V and VA dogs that I wouldn't even think of breeding. PPD cert??? by who??? BH is not a breeding title, it's a temperment and ob certificate.

    When it comes to working dogs I don't necessarily think they all need to be schH titled, that is if you have been around a long time and now how to test the dogs and really pressure them and know what type to breed to what type

    But for the most part the GSD has gotten to where it was because of a standard and by people really following that standard. No need to bring up American showlines or west german showlines because a lot don't follow the standard or just pay it lip service. Making your own standard is not the way to go IMO
     
  18. Jules

    Jules Magic, motherf@%$*#!

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    It has been stated by one of them on a different website that Annie will be 2 in January 09.
    Also that litter number 2 was an "oops" one.

    They had problems placing all pups... to the point, where VomDominus wanted to make an Army military police canine donation.

    These are things stated from either VomDom or his wife and if you do a simple google search, you will find it yourself.. just want to add that, because I am not looking into "nailing" anyone.

    But I can't say "hooray" either. Your dog has produced 2 litters in a short time... why the rush to sire another one?
     
  19. Yes, it is stated the bitch will be 2 years old on another forum. This is a recent post.

    The questions I have are:

    1) How was the decision reached to breed a bitch at barely 12 mos of age, IF this is true?

    2) What if any health testing was done before the breeding?

    3) With what organization did Dominus Tiberius receive his SchH titles and V ratings? Does he have a USA Scorebook?

    4) Why are neither of the dogs available in the AKC or OFA data base? The GSD pedigree data base states that Dominus Tiberius is OFA excellent.

    This is not an attack. These are reasonable questions that would/should be asked of any breeder when information comes to light that a bitch might have been bred twice before the age of 24 months.

    Claims of titles are easy to prove, if, in fact, such titles exist.

    Perhaps people are searching wrong or have dates confused. Again, easily corrected and verified if/when a proper search is done.

    :D
     

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