Everything you thought you knew about corn is WRONG

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  1. Southpaw

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    I subscribe to Veterinary Technician e-magazine and this month's issue had this informative article about corn in pet food.

    This nifty chart was included as well, showing some high quality proteins... :)
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    Here's the link to the article, I don't know whether or not you can read it without being signed in https://www.vetlearn.com/_preview?_...602-0050568d3693&WT.mc_id=newsletter;VT112111


    So yes this is the information that your veterinary personnel is learning.
     
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    What a crock. :D
     
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    Emily Rollin' with my bitches

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    :rofl1::rofl1::rofl1: I think I just peed myself. :rofl1::rofl1::rofl1:

    Aaaaanyway, I don't know if anybody here is a fan of Michael Pollan, but in his book, In Defense of Food, he talks about how food is greater than the sum of its parts, and that you can't just combine this or that nutrient and replicate a whole food. (He used concrete examples to back this up, not just opinion. Great book.)

    I can't help but feel he would have a field day with this. :D What a ridiculous notion. You cannot expect that a carnivore's body will receive amino acids from corn the same way it does from meat, because carnivores are not biologically equipped to eat corn - no matter how you slice it.
     
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    There is some interesting science pointing out that if we ate less carbs we wouldn't need so many anti oxidants. Cultures that eat very low carb have very low cancer rates.... So um yay for corns anti oxidants? lol.
     
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    LMAO

    Corn Gluten Meal has more PROTEIN than MEAT AND BONES MEAL?!?!

    Oh Brother!!!!!
     
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    Well it might, when you render down bones and meat.. bones aren't high in protein. I like how they put chicken by product in there... I wonder how corn stands up against actual meat meal. Not rendered down scraps.
     
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    I know, I like how it's crap vs. crap vs. more crap. Which crap is crappiest? Let's find out, and then feed it to our dogs. LOL
     
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    April Fools!





























    Right???!?!
     
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    LOL Exactly. I was thinking I wouldn't feed any of those three. So even if corn was the best of a crappy bunch its not going to impress me.
     
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    That's what made me nearly pee my pants LOL they're just letting us know how crap stacks up against one another. :rofl1:

    But you know, if you want to prove that corn is a God-like ingredient in dog food, then I suppose you have no other option but to compare it to (other) poor ingredients.
     
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    I don't think corn is as evil as some make it out to be. But I also don't think it's a necessary ingredient in dog food, let alone the main source of protein. But I don't see how it's terribly worse than some of the other grains used even in 'high quality' pet foods. It's hard for me to say. I stay away from corn personally (for my dog). But my dogs food DOES contain oatmeal, barley and brown rice. What makes those superior to corn?
     
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    Soooo...let's comapre corn to broccoli and carrots and cauliflower, since those are what we all feed our dogs as their primary source of protein?

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but this basically says "Cats are obligate carnivores. So let's feed them corn." :rofl1:


    I stay away from all grains. But I have lately been thinking what makes potato and sweet potato so special - they're still carb-loaded (I think I'd prefer sweet potato to potato for fiber among other things, but still) and honestly, are they nutritionally all that different from grain? I got a couple bags of Nature's Variety Instinct (on sale for $38 a bag, woohoo!) and realized there are no carb-heavy ingredients, really. There's meat, and there's vegetables, and some added nutrients, but no potatoes or grains or anything. And it has 42% protein, which is awesome (Logan's butt doesn't seem too fond of the food so far, though).
     
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    I know, WTF?! And ugh, um hello? Just because the amino acids are THERE doesn't mean the dog can digest those foods well enough to access them! That's WHY I spend all that time grinding down my dogs' veggies... so they can get some benefit from them.
     
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    Best part of the whole article lol.......

    about the author

     
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    OMG I MISSED THAT! :hail: :rofl1:
     
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    I missed that too, but I was going to ask who sponsored the article. I figured it had to be either Hills or Purina. At the clinic the doctor calls Hills ofr a nutrition consult on every freaking thing. Gee, I wonder what food they'll recommend...probably Hills! Ugh.

    We had someone come in with a dog today that was diagnsoed with diabetes. They currently feed a grain-free food with 30ish% protein. And he recommended they switch to W/D (18% protein and frekaing 51% carbs!). Ew. (Thankfully, they decided to stick with their current food!)
     
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    But of course!!:rofl1:
     
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    Hahah I forgot to include that gem!

    While I prefer to go grain-free, I do not think all grains are equal. Some are worse than others. With corn being at the bottom--it's not easily digestible, it has a high glycemic index, it just doesn't need to be in dog food when there are much better ingredients out there. It's just something cheap to throw in there.
     
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    To be fair this is very ground down, and grinding veggies isn't to make amino acids more available. Its because dogs don't grind when they eat they way herbivores and ominvores do. So we have to do it for them. I personally don't feed my dogs veggies.
     

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