Entropion stuff

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Anyone had a dog with this? What did your vet do to fix it, and would you mind telling me what the cost was?

Is there any chance of it correcting itself as the dog grows?
 

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Its genetic, and won't correct itself. My husband had a St.Bernard many years ago who had it. His vet did surgery to correct it, but I couldn't say what the cost was. He had it done just before we got together and I never thaught to ask. But according to him, surgery was the only real cure. He could have gone without it and just kept her eyes wiped several times a day, but it would not have eased her comfort.
 
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Surgery.
Get the pup in ASAP. It's like...having an eyelash in your eye - x 100. So very painful and can cause permanent damage if not addressed quickly. Eye infections are common during this time as well, continual goop as I'm sure you've seen. We use Triple Antibiotic (buy a new tube and only use it for that) when this is happening, it lubricates, soothes and prevents further infections.
If pup is 8 weeks old/2 lb. perhaps you can get the spay taken care of then as well.
 

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I think poquita is only 5 or 6 weeks old, and finding a GOOD vet to do it in Mexico for a good price will be the hardest part.

But I do remember that it can cause permanent blindness, and I've seen a few terrible terrible entropion corrections that left the dog with a malformed eye lid and weird tear duct problems...
 

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I think I mentioned this in your other thread, but just in case -- I know someone who has a dog with this problem, and she said the vet told her it was an inexpensive, simple procedure. However, that was in the US, no telling how much it would be in Mexico. Isn't human medical stuff cheaper there? I know my dad had to go to a dentist or something when he was in Mexico because he got dry socket from having his wisdom teeth removed, and it was much cheaper there than it is here, and he said they were really good.
 

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Thanks for the quick replies.

The problem is, we have had 3 vets pass by this puppy, "examine" her and tell us she has an eye infection. No mention or even recognition of entropion until I POINTED IT OUT TO THEM. I don't trust the vets here, either it's an issue of there being a language barrier or it's an issue of lower standards and poor education. In either case, i would not trust a vet to fix entropion if they cannot even recognize it.

Human medical care here is just fine, but the veterinary care seems to be sorely lacking in quality.

Dachshunds4me, thank you for the advice about the ointment, I appreciate it. I'll do that for her asap.
 

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Maybe when you meet Amber to bring Cricket to her, you could take Poquita to a vet in the US? If you start looking now for a vet in the area you're going to be in, and find someone who does the procedure, you could get an estimate of the cost.
 

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This is what I would like to do, but the surgery to tack the eyelids is one that has to be repeated frequently as the puppy grows. At least, that's what i've gathered from my research on the internet. I don't have much experience with this and I'm just sick to my stomach over it.
 
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Egads. I missed you are in Mexico.
Um shoot.
Get a tube of triple antibiotic (new, remember) and use it only for the eye. Keep smearing it in there 2-3 x a day until we can get something figured out.
How far are you from the US?
 

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Oh wow! That's going to be really tough. :( I have no advice, I feel awful. I hope everything works out for little Poquita! I have no experience with anything like this either, so I hope this isn't an offensive question (I'm really sorry, it sounds awful!), but if nothing else is possible, would a vet in Mexico be able to remove and stitch up that eye? You mentioned it might not have vision, anyway....so maybe it'd be the best choice so she won't be in pain.
 

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Yeah. If nothing else can be done I would much rather travel to find a vet I trust and have the eye removed. That's probably expensive as hell, but it'd be the end of the eye problem with the LEFT eye. No more irritation. Then of course there's the issue of placing an already average looking dog (I love this puppy but she's not a supermodel like, say, Cricket) with only one eye... Sigh.

The right eye seems to have some hope. I was doing some exercises with the lid today and it has improved a lot. Keep your fingers crossed.
 

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RD, I wish there was some way to get her to Georgia, because I would take her in a heartbeat. I don't know if there's anything I can do, but I know a woman who works with a rescue here, and maybe they can get her what she needs in terms of vet care.
 

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I have known dogs with entropion at FOHA, and it was just one surgical procedure (I don't know what it cost, but surgery isn't cheap in my area, especially not if you use certain chain vets, such as Caring Hands, they basically ROB their customers!), and it was fixed. The dogs recovered well. It's unfortunately becoming more common here in certain breeds, such as shar pei, mastiffs, rottweilers, and sometimes in badly bred bully-type dogs.
 

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Kassie had it done in both eyes, mind you this was about 8 years ago. I can't remember the cost, she also had another issue with was called Distichiasis. Her eyelashes were growing inwards towards the eye. You can see it if you gently pull down on the eye lid. The vet had to take a row of skin from the rime of the eye to remove it. I can't remember the cost, it wasn't all that bad, but then again it was many years ago. She hasn't had any problems with it since.

Actually I shouldn't say that, and wouldn't recommend this to anyone but Kassie did have one or two eyelashes grow back in a few years time. She's such a good little dog that I was able to get some tweezers and pluck it out. I think she knew it meant relief. lol
 

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I have known dogs with entropion at FOHA, and it was just one surgical procedure (I don't know what it cost, but surgery isn't cheap in my area, especially not if you use certain chain vets, such as Caring Hands, they basically ROB their customers!), and it was fixed. The dogs recovered well. It's unfortunately becoming more common here in certain breeds, such as shar pei, mastiffs, rottweilers, and sometimes in badly bred bully-type dogs.

Caring Hands is the epitome of ROB... that's for sure... I used Caring Hands when I lived out there and I remember FOHA using them as well. While I really like the vets there, one woman in particular though I can't remember her name, they completely overcharge everything there...

Grace, I'd definitely bring her with you when you bring Cricket to me and try one of the vets in AZ if you can. I'd call around first and get some quotes or try a vet in the AZ area that you are already familiar with and see what they would charge for this surgery vs what they would charge to remove the eye. If the surgery to correct the eye is going to be a one time surgery then I would try and opt for that if it might give her some chance of being able to have use of that eye... but if the vet seems to think her chances of seeing out of that eye are going to still be extremely slim even with the surgery then maybe removing the eye would be a better option, but that depends on what you and the vet both feel would be better for the little girl. I know you'll make the right choice for her, whatever choice that may be.
 

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Unless im missing something, removing the eye of a puppy for entropion seems very drastic. Some vets might not do the actual entropion surgery on a puppy either. Most want to wait until the puppy has stopped growing to see what its like then. She may out grow it. That is why we usually tack puppies to give them a chance.

Riley had entropion surgery on both eyes a year and a half ago. It came out to about 750$ at a university (my vet wanted us to go there to have it done for certain reasons). Granted a university's cost will be higher. I would say 350-500$ might be a good guestimate cost to have the surgery done.

I understand your situation and concerns living in Mexico, but i would not have her eye removed for this! What if she developes this in the other eye too eventually?
 

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