English Shepherds vs. Other Herders

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  1. Sit Stay

    Sit Stay Not a Border Collie

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    Maybe the OP doesn't feel like she has found "her breed" yet and is testing the waters. That's what this board is here for.

    She's not trying to make "a breed conform". If she doesn't like BC intensity, there are loads of other established herding breeds that aren't are intense as a BC. For example - English Shepherds. Even working breeders, in these breeds, may not want a working dog that intense. It's not "BC intensity" or "couch potato".
     
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    I think that's really valid. Intenseness first of all I think is subjective, various breeds show intensity different which can also come off less or more intense (Such as judging by eye, stance, speed etc.) depending on what the person and second of all not all herding breeds have the same level of intensity.

    When you're trying to figure out what you want or like I don't think it's unreasonable at all to say "I don't really want this part at this level but I like a lot of these other things, what breed can I find that in?"
     
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    Dogdragoness Happy Spring!!!!

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    I was just speaking on behaf of my breed (ACD) because she group them in her list of breeds she deemed to intense (because they are but not in the way BCs are) I cant speak for other breeds with the same experience as I can with the ACD because I have over 10 yrs experience in the breed.

    When first entering into a herding breed (or any breed for that matter) I would opt for an adult rescue, that way you know what kind of temperment you are getting (puppies, as we all know are a crap shoot) I was actually going to adopt a rescued collie when i was looking for a second dog ... but my vets references werent "complete enough" for them :( so I went through texas cattle dog rescue.

    My best advice for you would be to go to rescue sites (even if they arent in your state) for information about breeds you are interested in ... rescue sites often have a wealth of honest, unbias info about "their" breed. (thats how I found out a mal wasnt for me)
     
  4. sillysally

    sillysally Obey the Toad.

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    Pretty much this. I love labs and will likely always have one, but agility is something I'd really like to do and I admire the handle oriented, "give me a job" type additude if the herding breeds. They also seem a bit more versitile in the dog sport department than labs, plus in the next few years we hope to get land and possibly some chickens, ducks, and a horse or two and a dog that could do some light duty herding would be fun.

    I do think labs can be intense (though mine is not) but it's a different kind if intense than say, a border collie. It's hard to describe, but it's just different.

    I'd love to find a herder that will also swim-lol! I love swimming dogs!

    My issue with ACDs is more dog friendliness problems than intensity. From what I understand dog aggression is not at all uncommon in the breed and I want a more dog friendly dog.
     
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    Spanish Water Dog. http://www.swdclub.org/index.php

    Though lots of dogs of different breeds swim.
     
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    Elsie loves swimming! She's more reactive than it sounds like you want, though. :]
     

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