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neapolitanpitbull

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What is wrong? ((Help))

I have been having a lot of problems lately! My female prego guppy has a stinky bloody tail and the bottom of her gills are dark red. She is not having any trouble swimming that I can see but is trying to stay in shallow water. I dont know what is wrong?? I dont see how the other fish could have harmed her because they are just tiny baby guppies. I had her feeding a mild helping of soft boiled inside of an egg mixed with water, I had read to feed that to fry off a book and I doubt that had anything to do with it. I just changed the water in the tank and put the rocks in a bag. The tank is bare and filtered and I put her in there with a tiny newborn baby. I moved all the young adults in with the full grown adults. Does anyone know what is wrong with my big girl?
 
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I'm not sure I read your post correctly (please excuse me, it's late!) but what i gathered from it was that you just changed half the water and took out the gravel at the same time. Maybe I'm seeing this wrong? But I believe you would have a *huge* change in the water parameters after doing that, which is totally not good for the fishes.

How is she doing now?
 

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I changed all the water and took out the rocks, making sure it was the EXACT same temperture, and I also let it filter for a while.
She is swimming fine and eating fine, I did notice that one of her fins was ripped though. I have no idea what could have done this.
 

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You're not supposed to change all of the water and the rocks at the same time. It's too much of a change for the fish. Water temperature is just one of the parameters. I suggest you talk to Blue or Nedim and see if they can advise.
 

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She is doing fine. Still a little bloody but I think thats just stained or something because she is going through no pain. I am going to keep her in that tank..away from those pesky males!
 

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I don't know a whole lot about fish but I don't think you can really tell if they are going through pain! News to me if you can.
 

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Saje, you can tell they are having a hard time if they cannot swim, are swimming with too much effort, are just lying on the bottom of the tank,are not eating, etc. I wouldn't say you can tell they are going through pain, but you can tell they are having a hard time. And you can cleary see she is not. :)
 

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Ok but by that time it's probably pretty severe isn't it? Kinds of like with bully breeds and how well they hide their pain. You know they are hurt if they show it.
 

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Are her fins being held close to her body? Do you see any scales sticking out when she swims facing you? No, you never want to change all the water at once, only about 20%. Did you add any water conditioner to remove chlorine and other heavy metals? Did you add any slime coat additive? You can put in a little rock salt. You said she stays in shallow water. How is it that there is shallow water? Is this a regular aquarium? How many gallons? Do you have live plants in there to help oxygenate the tank? How long have you had the tank set up? (too many questions, I know, but I'm just trying to help you figure it out) I'd keep her seperate from the others until you know what it is.

Getting on a fish forum is a good idea. Or you can call a fish store....not some pet store, but one where they really know tropical fish. I've never experienced what you describe so I don't know what it could be. Are her gills swollen or sticking out more than normal?

When you say stinky tail? How do you know it's stinky? Do you mean smelly? Did you touch the fish with your bare hands by any chance?

Be careful she doesn't eat her baby. I'd put some surface plants in there for the baby to hide in or a breeding trap.

I've never heard of feeding a fish a chicken egg. That seems like it could really pollute the water. It's not a natural thing for them to eat. But I'm not an expert. See what you can find out from a forum or fish store. Let us know how she does.
 

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No, her fins are being held regularly but are kind of bloody. I noticed today one of her fins was ripped on her left side. I do not see any scales what so ever facing me or out of place. Yes, I added water conditioner when I changed the water, nothing else. I had a titled container I had her in and that is when she tried staying in the shallow water. Now she cannot stay in shallow water because the water is at the same height. The tank is 1.6 gallons and yes, it is a regular aquarium.

Are her fins being held close to her body? Do you see any scales sticking out when she swims facing you? No, you never want to change all the water at once, only about 20%. Did you add any water conditioner to remove chlorine and other heavy metals? Did you add any slime coat additive? You can put in a little rock salt. You said she stays in shallow water. How is it that there is shallow water? Is this a regular aquarium? How many gallons? Do you have live plants in there to help oxygenate the tank? How long have you had the tank set up? (too many questions, I know, but I'm just trying to help you figure it out) I'd keep her seperate from the others until you know what it is.

Getting on a fish forum is a good idea. Or you can call a fish store....not some pet store, but one where they really know tropical fish. I've never experienced what you describe so I don't know what it could be. Are her gills swollen or sticking out more than normal?

When you say stinky tail? How do you know it's stinky? Do you mean smelly? Did you touch the fish with your bare hands by any chance?

Be careful she doesn't eat her baby. I'd put some surface plants in there for the baby to hide in or a breeding trap.

I've never heard of feeding a fish a chicken egg. That seems like it could really pollute the water. It's not a natural thing for them to eat. But I'm not an expert. See what you can find out from a forum or fish store. Let us know how she does.
 

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You should look into getting some java moss -- they work really well as hiding places for the fry. Also, isn't 1.6 gallons a bit too small? Small aquariums like that are hard to monitor.. and a heater could severely boil the water in such a small body of water, so I'd watch out for that. As well, water parameters will change dramatically and clean water is especially important for new babies because you won't really be able to change the water for days after they're born.. and you'd have problems with that in such a small tank..
 

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I agree with Kathy. That small of a tank is easily over heated and hard to regulate, both temperature-wise and ph-wise. Maybe your ph is too acidic?Maybe you could splurge and get yourself a 10 gal. If the fish dies, she dies. I'd just start over. Do use some slime coat stuff. And talk to the fish store person if he's knowledgeable and get all the info you can first. Good luck. Let us know.
 

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