Eating troubles

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  1. Cthulhu7

    Cthulhu7 Mitch & Erin

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    Hello! I'm a new member. Yesterday i adopted a wonderful mini schnauzer named Cthulhu.

    He hasn't been eating much. I even tried mixing peanut butter with his food after a friend suggested it. He ate some last night, but hasn't eaten much today and I'm worried. He's a year old and the vet at the shelter said that he was healthy. I give him the same food he had at the shelter so i can't figure this out. Is it stress? He just went through adopting and fixing in the same week.

    If anyone has any ideas I'd be grateful.
     
  2. Renee750il

    Renee750il Felurian

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    It could well be stress.

    You might try adding some raw meat to it, and I feel safe in saying that whatever he was eating at the shelter wasn't terribly good for him, plus being there wasn't a good experience, so having the same food isn't likely to be much comfort to him.
     
  3. ~Tucker&Me~

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    I would guess that not eating is probably due to stress. He has had a lot happening recently and his appetite is probably suffering for it. I would stop mixing in peanut butter because what you don't want to do is develop 'finicky' eating behaviour - "I won't eat it until mom mixes something yummy in it!"

    How long have you had him and how long has he not been eating?

    This is what I would do. Give him his dinner or breakfast, and leave it in his bowl for 10 minutes. If by the end of the 10 minutes he hasn't touched it, pick it up and put it away. Repeat again at dinner and all the following meals. Unless he has a health issue (which the vet cleared him for), he won't starve himself. The idea behind this method is that we don't create a picky eater. His dinner is there, and he can eat it if he would like. Don't feel bad if he doesn't eat it, he CHOSE not to eat it. I can almost guarantee you he will come around and figure out the schedule. The idea here is that we are giving him a predictable feeding pattern (dogs generally like regularity and routines in their lives) and I suspect that with time he will settle in and begin eating with more enthusiasm.

    Also, can I ask what you are feeding him? Typically shelters can't afford to feed good food, so I would look into the brand you bought. If you would like, we can suggest some good quality foods for you :)
     
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    How long was he at the shelter? It could very well be stress, it takes some dogs longer to adjust being in a new home than others. :) Plus, you're new to him, it will take time to get him used to your routine as well. Also, you definately don't want to put stuff in his food to get him to eat. That will create a picky eater and small dogs can be finicky about their food.
     
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    I am going to argue against doing this. Raw meat and kibble should never be mixed because dogs digest them at different rates. It can be dangerous to mix the two in the same meal without sufficient time to digest one or the other beforehand.

    I am the first person to promote a raw diet (heck, I feed it!) but definitely not kibble and raw together, at least not the the same meal and without about 7 or 8 hours between.
     
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    I agree with both of these posts.

    Don't add anything into his kibble (because he'll get picky and refuse the kibble until you give him something better).

    He'll eat when he feels comfortable.

    You can also try putting the food down before you go to bed... some stressed dogs like to eat when everything is dark and quiet :) But that won't help in getting him to eat on a routine, if that's what you're looking for.
     
  7. Renee750il

    Renee750il Felurian

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    Enough to entice him to eat isn't going to cause a problem :)

    But here's what Mordy had to say on it in a thread awhile back:

    http://www.chazhound.com/forums/showpost.php?p=529777&postcount=10

     
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    I feed Frodo raw and kibble together every single day.

    Everything digests at different rates, we dont eat hamburgers in stages just because the buns and the meat and te veggies digest at different rates :p
     
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    My understanding was that the reason dogs can tolerate raw meat was because they have shorter intestines and it moves through their system fast enough that bacteria doesn't have an opportunity to begin to multiply to a dangerous level. The material I have read suggests that by adding kibble to a raw meat meal, you slow down this process because kibble takes longer for the stomach to break down and longer for the intestines to draw out the nutrients the dog needs. So the problem with mixing the two is that the meat will sit in the dog's system longer and this can increase the chances of harmful bacteria multiplying.
     
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    When in doubt, I've always found it best to go with Mordy's recommends ;)
     
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    I do love Mordy and frequently check her site. I really wish she had more info on raw though, as it is virtually all kibble info and that doesn't apply to me anymore :p
     
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    Tuck, her consults are REALLY affordable, and that's where she gets into the raw info heavily.
     
  13. Cthulhu7

    Cthulhu7 Mitch & Erin

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    Wow thank you all so much.

    Ok so no peanut butter, possible raw meat, check.

    He was given Hills science diet at the shelter, they gave me a free bag. Seems like a good brand. The thing is, he was only there for 2 weeks. Before that he was in a pound, and they did not take care of him.

    I have had him for 24 hours. He is wonderful, just needs some good training.

    Again,.thank you all, I'm already impressed and glad i joined this forum.
     
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    Yeah, I spoke with my very pro-raw vet about the raw+kibble issue (she is a holistic vet and has done a lot of additional research into raw feeding), and she seemed fine with it. As do nutritionists like Mordy and Monica Segal. As long as they are okay with it, I'm okay with it.

    IME a lot of the people out there saying raw+kibble in the same meal is terrible are hardcore raw people who are using it as a scare tactic to get people 100% off kibble.
     
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    Cthulhu7 Mitch & Erin

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    Hey so could stress also explain why he isn't interested in treats? We got milk bones, beggin strips, and t-bones. He hasn't been interested in them at all, barely a sniff. It's made training difficult.
     
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    Try really yummy, smelly treats. I would go for freeze dried liver, bits of cooked chicken, bits of hot dog.

    Also to add to the food discussion...I would get him of Science Diet and move him onto a grain free kibble.
     
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    I say its stress, he just needs some time to adjust ;)
     
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    Cthulhu7 Mitch & Erin

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    Well i don't expect anything to happen over night. he also just got fixed 6 days ago, so I'm looking at compound stress. We'll see where he's at in a week or two
     
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    Cthulhu7 Mitch & Erin

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    Oh a for the food, i can't afford anything that's all meat. I was planning to ease him into Purina smart blend. Any thoughts?
     
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    It's recommended that new dogs go through a 2 week shut down period to adjust to new homes... don't try any training, don't take him anywhere, don't introduce him to any existing pets in the house, etc. Make everything as simple and quiet as possible for him.

    The food and treats are both, inn my opinion, poor choices. https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/dog-food-reviews/hills-science-diet-dog-food-adult-dry/ You can use that site to find better quality food, as well :)
     

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