Dwarfism in border collies?

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  1. CharlieDog

    CharlieDog Rude and Not Ginger

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    I want a dwarf lab please!!
     
  2. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    I was thinking the dwarf dobe looks like a dachshund.
     
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    I don't know enough about it to add much to this thread. But I knew a dwarf Doberman. She was quite a surprise for her breeder. She was better proportioned than the dog featured in this thread... but still odd looking for the breed. I will have to see if I still have pictures stored on the computer somewhere. She only lived to almost 5 as she was also born with other health issues.
     
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    I find it quite interesting that most well bred corgis have much better legs and feet as the dwarfism affected dogs from the other breeds. Is there a reason for that? I see some with extremely distorted legs and very east/west feet, extremely down on the patterns, etc.
     
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    This is a pretty good explanation of what is going on with the limbs of dwarf dogs: http://rufflyspeaking.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/dwarfed-dogs-what-exactly-is-going-on-in-there/

    Well, most well bred dogs have better structure than pet bred dogs, dwarf or otherwise. In some breeds weak pasterns, east west fronts, ect are fairly common structural faults. Still, feet turning out and bowed fronts are not unusual in dogs of dwarf breeds at all.

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    First generation Box x Corgi mixes with varying degrees of dwarf characteristics:

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    Here's a question:

    I know corgis and other dwarf breeds have been bred for LONG LONG LONG LONG LoNG LONG times to have these characteristics, extreme dwarfism, and the gene pool has been likely entirely wiped out of dogs who do not carry the dwarfism mutation.

    But do these dogs, purebred, ever produce an anomaly or throwback dog that is not a dwarf? Or even if it was 100 years ago...any records of corgis/bassets/dachshunds producing puppies with "normal" bone growth and the legs of a non-dwarf dog?
     
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    OMG you have a pic of Caleb on this thread!!! He's such a cutie!!!

    To answer the previous question, there is a HUGE variation in Cardigans specifically. Pemmies are more of a cookie cutter breed, but Cardis can be all over the place.

    I've seen some Cardigans that I thought were BC mixes, but were actually purebred. Wouldn't have believed it had I not known where they came from.
     
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    A dwarf Malinois would be amazing.
     
  9. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    I would LOVE a miniature malinois. Like... a sheltie sized mal. Awesomeness.
     
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    I'd also like to add that it's in our breed standard that Cardigans not have straight fronts, so that wrap you see and the turn out are supposed to be there. Some dogs have too much, some have too little. My girl, Miz Naughty, is too straight in the front.

    Pembrokes and Doxies are *not* supposed to have wrap or turn out. Neither are beagles, although you do see alot of bow legged eastie westie beagles out there for some reason. Anyway, Pemmies are to have straight fronts.

    Weak pasterns are a problem in almost every breed, as are bad feet. I find that angular bone often results in witchy toes and bad feed. My Miz Naughty isn't oozing with bone, but she does have nice round bone and good round feet.

    Something I cannot stand is a short toed dog with flat pads. That is the WORST Yuck! lol
     
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    Border Collie dwarf dog

    I know most of these posts are 2013, but I only just found this site, and had to add that I have a border collie with dwarfism, he has Achondroplasia, so his body and head are full size, but his legs are short, he appears to be missing the middle bit of the leg. He though makes up for it with a huge character, he is 3 now and our Cavachon is nearly as big as he is. we also have his Mum who is a tri coloured welsh collie and is proper size, she is very lanky. I would post a pic but cant figure out how to!!
     
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    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    That's really interesting!
     
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    I've got a Border Collie and would love a mini one! ..mainly cos I love Collies but really need to downsize for my next dog as my Jay Bear grew into a big boy!

    I'd like either a black and white corgi that looks like a small collie or a collie x corgi, but Corgi's seem hard to find these days! ..I imagine a BC with dwarfism would be even harder to find!
     

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