Dogo Argentino possibly in the future

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  1. Dogdragoness

    Dogdragoness Happy Spring!!!!

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    I never said they did, anyway I have recieved loads of very useful information elsewhere by some very nice people who actually cared to provide me with USEFUL info instead of a bunch of snarky comments ...
    thanks anyway though. :rofl1:
     
  2. SevenSins

    SevenSins APBTs & One Crazy Banana

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    Honestly? Because molosser breeds are not normally suited to people with severe social disorders. These dogs are very in-tune with their owners and the owner's discomfort in social situations is going to travel right on down the leash and can cause the dog to assume that otherwise normal social interactions are threatening because of the way the owner reacts to them. That can create a pretty damned dangerous situation, and I don't know about you, but I'd like to be able to legally own these breeds for the remainder of my lifetime.
     
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    She's admitted as much repeatedly on this forum
     
  4. Dogdragoness

    Dogdragoness Happy Spring!!!!

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    Like I said, I have gotten much more useful information elsewhere, I started this thread here in hopes of gaining as much useful information as I could, but instead there is three pages of snarky comments & personal attacks.

    My opinions on certian matters shouldnt factor into the topic of inquiring information on a certain breed.

    I would also like to see your psychology degree that allows you to say that I have severe social problems, in CERTAIN situations; crowded resturants, or supermarkets like walmart etc ... yes I DO have issues, BUT the last time I checked, dogs werent allowed in those places so I do not think I will be taking my dog there.

    I was PLANNING on taking them to places where we could BOTH feel comfortable; Lowes, Home Depot, Petsmart, Petco, Pet Supplies Plus, there we could be in a TRUELY pet friendly enviroment that is low stress for the both of us.
     
  5. SevenSins

    SevenSins APBTs & One Crazy Banana

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    Oh you have no idea how tempting it is to drive out and tear apart that storage shed, if only to watch you choke when you bury that foot in your mouth...

    ...but seriously, it's not as if the signs are all that subtle.

    So what's the big, well thought out plan when you haul this 140 lb dog in to Petsmart and get bombarded by people who want to ask you questions about a breed they've never seen before, or get caught in a crowded area?
     
  6. Dogdragoness

    Dogdragoness Happy Spring!!!!

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    The backstory is I have differing opinions on some things UNRELATED to dogs & they cant get past that ... that is all, they keep bringing it up in threads that have NOTHING to do with my social issues.

    Yes I have social adversion/anxiety/phobia.

    Have you ever though that having a large, powerful dog that *could* PROTECT me if something were to go wrong might HELP my problems??? No, I guess not. Besides I have gotten that with the popular breeds I have owned (GSDs, JRTs, dobes etc ...) I even got "bombarded" as you put it with Smut, a dane/mastiff-something mix I had who WAS close to 140 lbs (he was neutered at the shelter as a puppy & I think thats what made him grow so large) & looked similiar to a corso in build.

    Of course there were stupid comments like "ever ride that thing" & "I bet he eats you out of house & home" but most people were too afraid of HIM (not me) to approacch at all, they just moved to the other isle or turned & went the other way when they ssaw him coming ... he was trained very well though I did use a prong on him (mostly because of his size).

    BUT the general reaction to him was good because he was a well behaved dog in public, always watched me, waiting for a command.

    If you DO have a degree, you must not have been a very good psychologist if you treat people you are aware to have "problems" the way you do.
     
  7. ~Jessie~

    ~Jessie~ Chihuahua Power!

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    I have a psychology degree, but I don't need it to know you have severe social issues. YOU have mentioned it enough in that breast feeding thread:

     
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    I dont have experience with Dogos or Corsos....but I can tell you with danes (that are "softer" I guess would be the best word but still Molossers) any anxiety carries straight to them. I had to work really really hard to have them be comfortable around strangers, groups, etc and my female especially is a bit nervous still. Nothing debilitating but I KNOW its my fault and it drives me nuts. My husband helps balance it and that helps and my anxiety is not that bad...I do generally enjoy people and like them..even then, the bit I do have transfers straight to them.
     
  9. SevenSins

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    Then you're probably NOT SUITED to a large to giant GUARDIAN molosser breed.

    No, because the **** dog isn't going to have a clear understanding of WHAT is a legitimate threat and WHAT you need protection FROM when you're tense, anxious, nervous, and/or aggressive in otherwise NORMAL, non-threatening social situations!

    I don't give a flying quart of hydrogenated wombat snot what the dog LOOKED like. A Corso is not a "Dane/Mastiff-something mix." A Dogo is not a "Dane/Mastiff-something mix." That would be like running out and getting a Fila because you "used to have a Bloodhound/Mastiff-something mix that kind of looked like one, so it'll be OK!" :rolleyes:


    Never once have I claimed that I am a practicing psychologist. ;)
     
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    Never mind ... I dont need this thread anymore. I have another contact that is much more informative then most of you have been.

    Thank you though, You guys can talk amongst yourselves. I have been given a few breeder contacts to gather information from.

    I was hoping we could leave our differing opinions about this out of THIS ... a thread that has nothing to do with what we were disagreeing about in the first place. It's like if someone hated tattoos or pink shirts or VFF's (all things I like or are interested in), & they were asking about a certain breed & I said something snarky because I KNOW they dont like tattoos/pink shirts/VFF's.

    Bottom line IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CURRENT TOPIC!!! YOU all are the ones bringing it in here, I' AM NOT. We were arguing about it in another thread, I dont bring it into another totally unrelated one unless SOMEONE DOES FIRST.

    @SevenSins-
    :rofl1: because ... You said this:
    Which is what led me to believe you had the crudentials to back it up. maybe someone else should be eating their foot right now.
     
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    No, he means YOU are the one who has said it YOURSELF in MULTIPLE posts.

    Your social issues have EVERYTHING to do with this topic. A breed like a dogo needs socialization.

    If I mentioned that I had dogs with strong prey drive in multiple posts, and then made a thread about how I wanted a house rabbit, I would HOPE people would mention that to me.

    It's not like each thread on here is viewed as it's own separate piece of information- we KNOW each other on here and each thread carries over to the next. Of course people are going to mention your social issues when you mention wanting a big, powerful dog breed- it's a major issue.
     
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    And I would hope that you're honest with your issues when you contact these breeders, but that almost certainly means that you're going to be restricted to buying a Corso or Dogo from a BYB. And sadly, there are many who will happily sell to anyone.

    This has very little to do with your opinions related to the BF thread, and more to do with your self-admitted issues.

    Apparently you don't have enough of a grasp on reality to understand that you can have a diploma without being an active practitioner.

    And honestly, it wouldn't matter. A palsied, half-blind gorilla can look at someone with his femur jutting out and manage to sign out that the guy has a broken leg.
     
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    Julee UNSTOPPABLE

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    Actually, it's all very relevant to this topic. Dogs can be quite in tune with their human's emotions (psychiatric service dogs work well for a reason!), and that can seriously interfere with their own perceptions about what is safe and what is not. Especially puppies.
     
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    JessLough Love My Mutt

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    Everything that has been mentioned is very much relevant. You just don't understand that because you know nothing about the breeds, and are now going to BYBs. You've posted about returning the dog you got as a rescue, because of the reason that "he doesn't like a leash and collar". That'll be the least of your worries with either of those breeds. There's no way you can safely handle a molossar breed.
     
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    I entertained the thought, but I didnt, everyone gets frustrated with their dogs I needs to vent sometimes.

    Who said I was going to a BYB, I never even mentioned BYB.

    the breeder I am going to is a very nice breeder (albiet not in my state) You all talk like this it happening tomorrow when it is YEARS maybe more into the future, I am in no hurry.

    any the venomous content of your posts means I will look elsewhere for information, thanks for nothing.

    For the record I have no intention of going to a BYB.
     
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    Yes, very informative post
     
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    I would like to ask if its the look or what that draws you to a dogo instead of another ACD, which you seem to know?
     
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    Yes of course the look does factor into it, abut as I read more & talk more with breeders I think that a corso migght be more of a better fit for me.

    they are more personally protective & have more guarding instincts then most (not all but most) ACDs who have a suspicious nature but its more of a cautiously suspicious nature.

    Granted I am still learning so I have a long way to go, but like i said, no puppy anytime soon. I am willing to wait until I am good & ready
     
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    Having owned a well-bred Corso, that is really NOT the breed for someone with your issues and I'm telling you from personal experience, my dog was a very SHARP dog that could have been dangerous if paired with someone who had a serious social disorder. Not nearly Fila sharp, but sharp none the less. That dog was extremely well socialized and trained, and READ ME LIKE A BOOK. But there were no mixed signals. Corsi are NOT a breed for someone who thinks it would be "cool" to have one, or someone who wants a dog to take out a show off and intimidate people with. That's the harsh damned truth.
     
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    The financial obligations with the breed are nerve-wracking. They are expensive, even well bred are often unhealthy, and often temperamentally scary. Many people in the breed misunderstand proper guard behaviors and take instability, paranoia, and insociability.

    Something to consider.
     

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