Discussion in 'Dog Health Care' started by shredhead (DOG LOVER), Jul 30, 2004.
I've read lots of articles on dog food and whats good and whats not. What are you feeding your dogs?
Mine get Innova and the puppies get a big bowl of calf milk replacer every morning. They also get leftovers, and eat anything they catch except barn rats.
I have a couple of questions if you don't mind answering them.
Don't you ever get worried that the things your dogs catch may contain diseases?
What is the price range of Innova dog food and where can I get it?
This is a farm and they're going to catch things and eat them, especially when you consider what kind of dogs they are. You have to remember, too, that dogs are not susceptible to a lot of things just by virtue of their unique digestive systems. They're scavengers and hunters by design. If I were in a city where people put out poisons and there are a lot of chemicals being ingested by wild animals I would worry, but what they catch lives on our land and we don't use any of those things.
The Innova's about the same price as Iams or Eukanuba. If you'll go to www.naturapet.com there's a locator where you can find a source for it. They're a pretty responsive company, too, so if you don't see an outlet near you they would probably drop ship. You can always try to get your vet or a local non-chain store - maybe even a health food store - to carry it, too.
I'd like to start off by saying that if anyone is thinking about having their dog switch to IAMS or EUKANblah... I suggest you DO NOT DO THIS for the sake of your dog. Iams is a very low quality food with alot of fillers/byproducts/hormones/coloring, etc. Its not healthy and the teeth cleaning formula contains sand (way ta go IAMS ) Not to mention, IAMS has been doing some lousy and cruel animal testing lately that they are being sued for by more than one individual/group.
Now back to the good foods. If anything, I always find myself suggesting Wellness. It contains no additives and hormones and all the meats are human grade quality. Have you ever smelled the stuff? Yeah thats right it stinks like actual fish or lamb..because its much more natural than the stuff you buy at Walmart or your local grocery store.
Other natural and good qualities include:
Old Mother Hubbard (created Wellness)
Essex Cottage Farms
Besides dog food, I like to cook for my dogs when I have the time. Chicken hearts, kidneys, gizzards.... ground beef, beef heart, beef liver....chicken wings and thighs....etc..........with veggies and some rice..mix it all and add about a teaspoon of eggshell powder...
(however, if you're going to prepare home cooked meals for your dogs, you should probably make sure to analyze the nutrience levels and do some research since you want to keep the ph and ca ratios constant = 1.2:1 ca to ph...not to mention keeping up healthy levels of fat, carbs, and especially protein.
Other foods to consider
Hi, I just want to throw out a big basic AMEN to the previous posts. I wanted to take a minute to include a few excellent foods not previously mentioned. Here goes: Eagle Pack; Back to Basics; Wellness; Blackwood 2000 (formulated by the ORIGINAL formulator of Iams); Precise Plus; Flint River Ranch; Regal. These are all foods that meet 4 important criteria. 1. Human grade ingedients. 2. Naturally preserved. 3. Sequestered or Chelated minerals. 4. Solid business philosophy (nutritional needs of the animal first, not soley profit driven).
If you're interested in raw diets, a good place to go is www.rawnaturaldiet.com .
The only drawback to all of the above mentioned products is that they are basically dead. Now some of them do incorporate Probiotics and digestive enzymes to the end of their process, and in that sense have some "living" value. But the "Dietary" enzymes, which are found abundantly in all live foods, i.e. 'live kills', fruits, veggies etc, are gone. Without them, the body does not have adequate resources to make repairs, heal, and keep up with all its metabolic demands. For growing puppies, they play an important role in the proper distribution and utilization of nutrients. To find out more, see my siggy site.
I'd like to emphasize, too, that liver and kidney is really not an optimum choice of organ meat for dogs - or humans for that matter. The liver and the kidneys are filtering organs that collect all sorts of toxins that enter the body, and some are stored and concentrated in the liver and kidneys.
So I treat my dogs at times with Cow or Lamb liver... is that dangerous? I get it free from my 4H leader cause she raises'butchers cows/lambs... which is why I use it quite often...?
We feed ares pedigree is that good?
I second that..
Ripley eats a variety of foods, Natural Balance, Royal Canin and Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul. He's a somewhat picky eater and seems to like a variety, and he's in excellent shape, so that's what I choose to do.
Originally Posted by Iluvmydogsforever04
We feed ares pedigree is that good?
There is a great article that really explains in depth about the basic practices of the pet food industry (including Pedigree). It is called "What's really in pet foods" and you can find it at www.api4animals.org . It is also copied by permission at my signature site. Be prepared to be Shocked!
But Serena, we know you'd at least feed them Hebrew National hot dogs! ;}
Once again, I recommend Wellness.. it contains human grade ingredients, no antibiotics or hormones...and alot of other goodies..
Other good choices would be:
Old Mother Hubbard
The worst ones are IAMS, Pedigree, Eukaneuba, and other brands that you can buy in any supermarket..yeah...to say the least..they BLOW..
Pitbulliest, don't forget Hill's Science Diet on your list of foods that BLOW!
Well, Ripley is now going to be switched to raw feeding for a 'trial run' to see how he does. I've got the time to put into making sure he gets a balanced diet, & it's one of the few things he doesn't turn up his nose at.
Edit: ohhh yeah, Science Diet, the corn meal sprayed with fat? Yep, I'd say that belongs on the list.. Ripley is mildly allergic to corn, and when I got him he was eating SD... His condition improved so much after I got him off of it, he stopped itching...
Well, you did say "hot dogs and jelly donuts," so I went with your premise. Either way, most commercial dog foods and the companies who push them are full of baloney! ;}
Oh yeah ...Science Diet sucks too..lol
Nutrition is a key to a long life for dogs
I read a lot of good ideas here at the forum about what food is best to feed your dog. The ongoing debate about BARF vs. home made vs. store bought premium foods provoked me to do some research. My preference is to make food from top quality meats and veggies for my dogs. I also like to use supplements which are helpful in summer when allergies from the grass pop their itchy symptoms into play
I posted some information at http://dogs-4life.com/HealthyDogsGourmet.htm
about healthy diets and some comparisons that between the different options that might help. It's in the Healthy Dog Gourmet link on the homepage
It's worth the extra effort to make sure that your dog gets quality, no preservative nutrition to keep his immune system strong and to help him live a long life.
I feed them California Natural, partly for trying to help with Molly's alergies and it was one of the few "high quality" foods they actually would eat, and not give them horrible gas. I tried Royal Canin, and King refused to touch it, and I caught him lifting his leg on it one night. Neither Molly or King would eat Solid Gold at all, but at least King didn't whizz on it! The owner of my dog's mother had all 13 pups and her eating a cheapo local brand of dog food, donated by the manuf to them, as it was getting out of hand, between the shots and the food (Apparently all the pups but King were big eaters), she was going broke. They seem, regardless of what I try to give them, to like the cheaper stuff a lot better. Getting King to eat anything other than baked or fried chicken is a joke sometimes, but he eats Little Champions beef and gravy pretty well. He cares less about food than any dog I have ever seen, Molly eats constantly, out of nervousness, I guess.
My last dog made it to 14.5 on IAMS, so how bad could it be? He ate tons of it, literally! Go for a ride? Gus ate like one of those starving dogs on animal cops. Go for a walk? Same deal, starts eating furiously. Come back from a ride/walk, drink and eat like he was starved. Anytime he got excited, he ate about a half bowl of food each time, about 8 cups a day. Never weighed more than 75 pounds and had regained weight after starting Accupuncture treatments from 63 back to 73 just before we found out he was loaded with cancer, and 10 days later, we had to put him down. The improvement in movement alone seems to have proven that the accupuncture really works..
And don't forget about not getting a steady diet of carcinogenic contaminants from many commercial dog foods!