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  1. Shannerson

    Shannerson New Member

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    Old English Sheepdog
    Bearded Collie
    Polish Lowland Sheepdog
    Tibetan Spaniel
    Lowchen

    I love these shaggy looking breeds. Anyone own any or have knowledge of them?

    They all shed right?
     
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    Cassiepeia Chihuahua Mum

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    I had an Old English Sheepdog when I was a teenager. Wonderful friendly dog, very active but not hyper. Good with other dogs and we had chickens and ducks as well, she was good with them too (although a lot of that comes down to socialisation). Yes she shed a lot and needed a LOT of grooming on top of that, even though we kept her clipped short.
    If it wasn't for the grooming I'd have one again. :D I just adore them.

    Cass.
     
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    My friend has bearded collies and the actually don't shed all that much- each individual hair is long though so you know what that's like.
    I'm not sure what qualities you're looking for in a dog. I like beardies to me the only downside is I can't see their eyes and I hate haing to put my dogs hair up! They are also quite vocal and seem to mature very late but they are friendly, happy , smart dogs. I prefer them to the OES.
     
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    I got to spend some time with two Lowchens today - show cut of course but OMG are they little darlings!! I really fell for the breed today lol

    They were so small and so puffy at the top and bald at the bottom lol

    They were at the show secratarys table today and they'd sit on booster seats with their front paws on the table.. there was a little bowl that said "Treats, please give me one" on it and they'd sit there waiting for treats lol
    They were just adorable!

    and yes - ALL of those breeds shed.

    With the Old English and the Beardy - they require LOTS of DAILY grooming or they will knot up.. especially the Beardy - their coat gets fairly long and without grooming they can look rather nasty.

    I didn't see a Lowland today, but I have seen them before places and they are adorable as well. I dont know much about the spaneil though.
     
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    Yeah, Beardies can get pretty ratty in a hurry; can't say much about the temperments because the two I've met are sweet when they want to be, but holy crap look out if they're feeling quirky.

    OES..again, the bunch that I've met are pretty sweet most of the time, but a little dense and I keep running into a smattering of dog aggression with them that is hard to redirect because of the "denseness".
     
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    I beg to differ about the beardies and grooming.
    Beardies have sort of slick, non fuzzy coats almost like human hair so sure they need grooming and look a bit ratty without being brushed but they don't actually matt all that much. I worked my friends beardie for her in the manners class she taught and that dog didn't get brushed or groomed in that 8 weeks and although she looked a bit ratty, she was not matted. That's a question I specifically asked because I was really curious about how bad the upkeep was on that long hair.
    OES have more fuzzy puffy hair that matts up really easily.
     
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    We've had a few Beardies come into work for a groom and they generally do have some matts in them(not horrible thouhg).. it all depends on the coat texture though as well. I caught a glimpse of one Beardy walking in to their grooming section at the show today and just from walking from the vehicle to the arena it ended up with some tangles in his fur.. i could only imagine what a week without brushing would do...
     
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    what great replies!
    I have loved the OES for a long time, but boy, I could not deal with all that hair me thinks. Same with the beardie.
    There is also the tibetan terrier, which are so neat; to me they remind me of a beardie.

    I think the tibet breeds: Tibetan Mastiff, Tibetan Terrier, Tibetan Spaniel, Lhasa Apso and I think Shih-Tzu (is the last one right) or so fascinating in how they worked together.
     
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    Coats and grooming / shedding is a funny thing. I have often heard people say they want a short coated breed because they don't want so much hair in their house but many if not most short coated breeds actually shed far more than most long coated breeds and short hair often is thetype that gets easily embedded into furniture and clothing and is really tough to vacuum up whereas longer hair balls up unto little (or big LOL) tumble weeds that you can suck up with the vacuum. Think about the rotties, pugs, shepherds, labs, corgis -- doesn't look like much hair but it's LOTS.
    Then there's the longer coats that shed every day vs the ones that blow their coat twice a year and hardly shed other than that.

    My aussie basically doesn't shed except when she's blowing her coat and even then I'm having to help it out with a shedding rake. My border collie shed a little bit all the time so I'm constantly vacuumimg up black tumble weeds. Then there was that cattle dog we had I had to vacuum AND use the tape roller thing to try to get his hair out of my sofa.
     
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    Ive showed some PONS and they are guardy and like to talk back very active breed . I grew up with a OES very active goofy and broke my grandmas hip when Barney took up on her.

    Pon is easier and smaller but Both of them required extensive grooming .
    Best of luck in your choice.
    Have you seen a bolonka? they are colored havanese type dogs from russia and are small.
     
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    My first dog was a Beardie, and she was lovely. Beautiful temperament, never mean or bullying or hard-headed. If I lost my temper (being about 8 when we got her) and yelled at her unfairly or slapped her, she rolled onto her back and begged my forgiveness. That'll teach you humility in a hurry. When we got her, she was about 3-5, and that beautiful coat was so badly tangled that we had to cut out the mats, piece by piece. It never got that bad again, but it did mat easily, in places where it doesn't mat on my current dog - back, hips, chest, front legs, etc. All that double coat everywhere. Basically, a Beardie just mats everywhere unless you keep consistent with the brushing. They shed, but it's long and easy to pick up. The thing that probably is most pause-worthy for me is the barking. As with all the collies, the Beardie has a bark that can shatter steel. Painful bark.

    Mine was an adult when we got her, and she behaved as if I was her puppy, very motherly and protective. But she wasn't at all serious or stolid; she was playful and exuberant her whole life, and was very vibrant and active until her last few months. I've read that this is typical of the breed, they remain cheerful and lighthearted all their lives.
     
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    I have a 13 year old Tibetan spaniel, I'd reccomend the breed.

    She has a wonderful temperament, she's very playful and sweet, she loves people, though I have read that they tend to be aloof with strangers.

    If you're a light sleeper she might not be the breed for you as they were bred to be watch dogs and it shows, she barks at every noise in the night the moment she hears the floorboards creak she's off to investigate and making a lot of noise about it.

    I'm not complaining it may prove very useful one day.

    When we first got her, just a few months ago, she shed everywhere and left so much hair on my lap that i could have knitted another tibetan from it,she is brushed almost every day now and we had her clipped(not too short) and we see very few hairs.
     
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    My dad has one of these. First point, yes, he sheds. :) But he's the neatest little dog, and I don't care for little dogs. Very full of life, very attentive to his daddy, great company. A little barky at times, but not bad compared to some.
     
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    I have a 1yr2moth old tibetan spaniel. He`s really the sweetest dog I`ve ever met. He`s never bitten, snapped, barked or growled at a person/kid -ever. He`s very affectionate and adventurous -he doesn`t scare easily and loves new things. The fur is very easy maintenance; brush and wash kinda fur. Very easy. it does shed and living up north(Finland) and the house being heated inside he sheds almost every day -so I vacuum a few times a week. He doest bark much, only tiny ruffs to let me know someones coming :)
     
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    I only have enough time for a quick reply, so I could be off a little because I didn't read all of the previous posts, except for your own.

    My aunt & uncle used to own an Old English Sheepdog a while back until she died of old age, but she was WONDERFUL with us kids. Extemely friendly dog. I do remember that she did shed. Funny story: since I was much younger at the time... around 5 years old, I thought she was ENORMOUS, so I called her the "big bear"!

    Anyways, hope I helped! :)
     

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