Do You Know His Breed ?

[Aussie Red]

His breed has been around in the states since the 1890's
He is not on AKC but is known to the Agility and herding world.
His breed is true and will soon be in AKC
What is he ?? any guesses ?
Here are two pics of ours in 1990.

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[Zoom]

Kelpie?

 

[Aussie Red]

NOPE I bet this one eludes most people lol

 

[pitbullpony]

Stumpy Tail Cattle dog

 

[Aussie Red]

Nope nice try lol

 

[pitbullpony]

catahoula

 

[Aussie Red]

Sorry but wrong again I am dying to tell but won't not enough guesses yet lol

 

[pitbullpony]

Hangin' Tree Cowdog

 

[Aussie Red]

LOL a what ?? but no

 

[chinchow]

This is HARD! I was going to say Stumpy Tailed Cattle Dog too!

Hmmm.
It's not a sennenhunde breed is it?

 

[Zoom]

Hangin' Tree is a working line of Aussies, not an acutal breed. As far as I know anyway...the dog I want is out of HT lines.

 

[Aussie Red]

intresting but this is not one would it help if I said that he is known for his ability of both heading and heeling while herding ?

 

[Zoom]

Nope.

Can we get a country of origin?

 

[chinchow]

McNab?

 

[Aussie Red]

Bingo that is it have you ever seen them ?Awesome workers and am looking into a puppy as we speak. They were created in California and now have a winery on site were they originated.

 

[pitbullpony]

North American/Miniature Australian Shepherd

 

[Aussie Red]

No it is a McNab
Chinchow got it right

 

[chinchow]

I have only met one!
At a herding trial, yeeeears and years ago.
He looked a little bit like that. They are a typey breed, aren't they?
He was a great herder! And I noticed the heading and heeling as well.

 

[Aussie Red]

No they are bred true now and are going for registry

 

[Aussie Red]

not many know of them because they were kept within California and sold only to ranchers until they proved to be sound and now are in Montana, Utah and California. Very hard to come by but up on the list for ranchers and agility people. Ours beat out our ACD's and Catahoulas for herding the cattle although they did not seem to be as determined as our ACD's at the job.