Discussion in 'The Breeding Ground' started by AdrianneIsabel, Feb 4, 2013.
But... I want Quinn babies. Since you won't provide me Quinn herself, or a clone
Yes and no. Eve is a brilliant creature, structurally almost bombproof, with tons of drive and a good work ethic. She fits what her breed should be, but she is also prone to being a bit temperamental and stresses easily when exposed to certain stimuli. I made the decision not to breed her because she's never had a fair test of her aptitude as a sheepdog.
Sonic, not even close. Dumb as a post, slow run up, & no muscle on the left side of the head.
Olive looks good in type, but I haven't been able to put her on enough game to be worth health testing.
Ransom - no way. Structurally I don't think there is that much wrong with her, although I've never done any health testing. She is very very small, but still within standard for an Am Bulldog. But her temperament is totally out of standard. Not confident, not very intelligent. I love that silly white dog...
Callen - sadly no. He has a disqualifying fault. Of course all of his health clearances came back great - figures. He has several minor faults if you wanted to pick him apart, but without the DQ I would consider him breed-worthy. His temperament is fantastic. The vets office questioned me when I took him in for his neuter, said he was the friendliest and best looking rottie they'd met. Ok, done bragging on my boy...
Recon - don't know yet. Comes from GCH parents, fully health tested with back end titles, so the potential is there. We shall see...
Keeva - time will tell. There are a lot of things I love, some things I accept, and some things I wouldn't promote. She needs to be health tested and have far more titles before I'd make any decision, obviously. If her breeder and I can find the perfect boy, it's a possibility. He would have to be sound, moderate (no feet coming straight out of his chest), titled in sports or at least herding, and dog social/tolerant. I would like for her gain better focus, she can be like a kid in a candy shop in certain situations. However, these guys mature slowly and her mother made a major turn around 3 and began working as a service dog around that time. She had many of Keeva's less desirable traits until then as well, and outgrew them.
It's definitely not off the table, if I could find the perfect boy. Oh, and she absolutely needs to see stock several times and have her instinct evaluated (I really doubt that will be a problem, LOL, but still), bare minimum, for me to breed her. Ideally she'd have a good amount of experience on both sheep and cows.
Overall, she's a great little corgi and she's always been healthy as a horse, could seriously eat anything, and is mentally sound. Her structure is very sound and she's certainly athletic! And... this is a minor consideration, but, I love her head/expression. Sweet, feminine, but bright and intelligent.
Macky - I dunno, but she's a **** good dog! Go anywhere, do anything, and tries her hardest at whatever I ask her to do. Biddable and obedient but not really soft. SUPER nerves, both socially and environmentally, and just a kind nature. In a theoretical world... I might consider it. I guess I'd take her to a field Cocker (hmmm, she and Ollie would make some fun babies). Ollie has more obsessive drive than she does (though she certainly has drive), which would be perfect to add to the mix. Her structure isn't perfect but it functions and at 7 she's still silly, energetic, and sound.
Blossom - Noooooooooooooooooooooooo way. LOL. I love, love, LOVE her but there's a reason she's getting her uterus cut out right this very moment, lol. She's a great dog and had she received any socialization I'm sure she'd be almost overly-social in public. Her environmental nerves are quite solid as well. Awesome drive, etc... There's a ton I love about her, BUT... her dam's side is not known for producing sound dogs. Her dam was washed by a broker/dealer/breeder because she's super sharp/fear aggressive. Her owner almost could not have her spayed because they couldn't get her sedated safely. Aleron has asked about that side of their ped (KNPV dogs) and was basically told they were some nasty, crazy, overly sharp dogs - and this from people who enjoy crazy, sharp dogs, LOL. Her sire's side is excellent, and I'll look to those same lines when I want another Mal. But no, I would never breed Blossom, not knowing what she has behind her on her dam's side. It's a small miracle she's as sound and social as she is, frankly.
Omg. I would totally want a Keeva puppy (as long as it's male). It would be like having the offspring of a Mu/Tipper cross. :lol-sign:
Sloan - possibly leaning towards Yes, she has some flaws but over all we've found nothing but pleasure with her. Great drives, great size, natural muscle, stable, social, careful, alert, jack of all trades. Her breeder has talked about it with me and we've been approached. I would like to see a bit more from her that time will allow and a sire with lines to balance her but over all yes, in theory.
Backup - possibly. As per his fathers side he's made a drastic leap in maturity around the third birthday. He's coming together nicely but he is an extreme dog and thus would need to be bred carefully. I've discussed this with both his breeder and a few friends that I trust. He is smaller than I would like but he carries more size in his genes, his mom is perfection and his dad is an extreme dog, like him. If we found the right bitch and if he continues the way I see it, yes. He's a spectacular dog but my inexperience said otherwise when he was younger (and I was told I was wrong by tons of better trainers) so the slow maturity is an issue to be aware of as well.
We need to get Macky and Cynder together, find some studs, and make a breed of hypothetical medium sized Retriever Spaniels. She and Cynder sound so much alike.
(Of course, in this world, Cynder still has ovaries. )
Abe personality wise and work ethic wise for an Aussie i think he is perfect.
Structurally he is not bad, back end would need some fixing, but his front is not bad. He is sound, has good hips and elbows.
His coat is out of standard and his height is right up there at the top.
Structurally he is a decent dog but not a decent Aussie.
I would totally take an Abe-let.
Oh lord so would I! Hundreds of them!
LOL! you'd love one, you're experienced in angry short dog ways.
This is a cool thread - it's interesting to see what everyones' priorities are.
Cricket - Well, I sure hope so, considering she's been bred twice! In all seriousness though, absolutely, and if I didn't think two litters was enough for one dog I wouldn't hesitate to breed her again. She's got great structure, has passed all her health tests, and has a truly wonderful temperament - bouncy, playful, social, focused, stable, athletic, and so willing to work. She is such a dependable agility dog, and really loves the game. A great courser, crazy for the lure. She's got a nice pedigree - accomplished, healthy, long-lived - and I only hear good things about her offspring.
Journey - Yes. She is such a well-built dog and moves like a dream. I wish her ears weren't all over the place, but that doesn't have an impact on function, and apparently you can usually fix that in one generation. Again, wonderful temperament - a little sillier than her mother but similar in many respects. It seems like she recently grew a brain, and if she keeps up her good focus, she's going to be a great agility dog for my sister. She's a great courser too, and fast. Nice pedigree - her litter was the culmination of two lines Cricket's breeder has been maintaining. There may be some Journey-lets running around in the next year and a half or so In the meantime we'll get some more titles on her and finish health testing.
Newton - Too soon to tell, as he's only around nine months old, but so far he's a promising pup. Except for a few minor nitpicks, I think he's going to be gorgeous. Wonderful temperament - so sweet and snuggly, focused, confident, and doing great in his foundations agility class. Excellent on the lure already. Time will tell but I have high hopes for him.
Well Avril has already been bred once and hopefully will be bred again. But I think so. I would take a million Avril clones if I could. Although she's stubborn, she has the ideal temperament (well for me.) Not super friendly but not aggressive or shy at all. Absolutely nothing scares her. Protective. Alert. Smart. So far healthy and all her health tests are normal. And she's beautiful. I wish she was a little more smooth over the top of her back, but besides that she's nearly perfect in my opinion (so I'm a little bias ) Also parents/grandparents/random family members are all titled and health tested.
I think this is a really good thread! It's interesting seeing whats important to everyone. And what others consider breeding quality.
Rowan: Depends. Am I breeding for proper Brittanys? If so, then hell no, LOL. He doesn't look like a Brittany in a lot of ways (too tall, some wonkiness with his face/head) and certainly doesn't ACT like one in a lot of ways (waaay too mellow and little to no bird drive.) If I was hypothetically breeding for good, stable pets? Much more likely. He's intelligent (if anything too intelligent; if I'm going for companion dogs I might match him to a bitch that was a little less cunning.) He's basically bombproof; no noise reactivity, perfectly fine with other dogs/strangers/cats (just not rodents!), and is willing to try anything. Doing our foundations and beginner classes for agility have been a dream because he has no hesitation about any of the obstacles, at all, even the teeter. He's also EXTREMELY food motivated (which is almost detrimental, he loses his composure/mind over it after a while, but makes training basic things with low value rewards pretty easy.) He's the master of cuddles and sticks to me like glue. I am pretty much the only thing in the world he cares about.
In the end though I still probably wouldn't. He had some minor seizures when I first got him that the vet said he'd grow out of (and has) but I don't know enough about the type to risk passing it on. He also has really, really bad SA. I don't know if it's genetic or if it's something I inadvertently nurtured in him; if I knew it wasn't genetic it wouldn't be a dealbreaker, but who knows. And of course, I don't know anything about his lineage other than that his parents were both untitled, likely untested dogs from one of the Carolinas.
Riff: He's still young so it's probably too early to say, but at this point? Oh HELL no! He's such a sweetheart, but he's got this combination of being an uncontrollable spaz and just not being very smart that can get very frustrating. For the time being I'm attributing it to being two very high-energy breeds AND still having a puppy brain (he's a month shy of 2) but man, I'm really hoping he gets at least a little smarter...
He's also a mix, unknown parentage on at least one side, who knows about his health (I think he's having food allergy issues right now actually), so yeah, definitely a resounding no!
Considering Bubbles is going to have pups within the week, I would say yes for her LOL. She's a CH (finished very quickly), health tested, got an AOM at Nationals, and I'm sure would be GCH pointed if we had any competition around here. I love her structure and movement, her temperament is very good (wish she were a BIT more confident, but that's more her upbringing than anything, and I had no part in that since I didn't get her until she was a year and a half), and she's just plain pretty. I honestly started coveting her when I saw pics when she was 10 months old, and I'm so glad she matured nicely and that I'm able to begin my lines with her.
Pen, yes. Really his only fault is that he's a BIT small for a male. So if the female were on the bigger side, I would have no problems. He's just HANDSOME. He's health tested, a CH, GCH pointed, has a fantastic temperament, eager to please, and while I'm not totally in love with his movement, for the right female, I would breed him. He's already been bred once (his son is a CH, and I think his other offspring weren't shown). He also shows the most treeing instinct of my three, which I love. Most of the time. Maybe not at 6am when we have neighbors close all around us
Kimma. NO. Oh man. As much as I want other Finkies like her, she's just sort of a mess. Weird IBD problems, history of Demodex, nervy, fearful of random things, etc. She doesn't have the confidence I would want any breeding dogs to have. But I do love her and hope that I can find a future puppy with the drive and trainability that she has. Though I think a lot of that was sort of worked on throughout the years, versus something she necessarily came with.
Mini Cattle Pirates for all!!!!!!!
If you breed Journey, I will seriously sell you my first born for one of her puppies. She is one of the most beautiful dogs I've ever seen, and I have a whippet sized hole in my heart that Argon left.
Emma was going to be shown and possibly bred depending on how well she did, and how her health test results were.
However, she ended up not weighing enough, so we spayed her.
If I could magically make her weigh at least 5lbs, I'd consider her breed worthy. She's an amazing little dog, and the world needs more Emma's.
Rylie and Tucker are both great examples of chihuahuas as well... so if they were health tested (and had all their parts and Rylie was larger lol) I'd love puppies.
Chloe has such an AWESOME personality and little Chloe's would be amazing
And Rory... he's a great dog but I'm not sure the world could handle such chaos :rofl1: But seriously, he's pretty awesome and had I competed with him, health tested him, he could make some pretty awesome puppies. He's intact, but he's not going to be bred.
I'll take one!