Do you ask your Vet for training advice?

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  1. adojrts

    adojrts New Member

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    And do you trust that their knowledge is complete and correct?

    Me? No, they are vets and most of them have little or no experience, knowledge on training and/or behaviour.

    Thoughts???
     
  2. JessLough

    JessLough Love My Mutt

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    No because i havent needed it, but i absolutely would trust her if i needed some help. I dknt see how her being a vet would make her advice null and void, it wouldmt be much different than asking anybody here, except she knows Rosey. She lives happily with like 5 dogs, obviously shes doing something right LOL I also wouldnt use her as a vet if i didnt trust she knows what shes doing when it comes to most aspects of pet ownership.
     
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    It's never occurred to be to do so. We do have a few vet clients at my work though who compete in obedience, agility, and NW so I presume they would be relatively reliable sources for their clientele. I go to coworkers, friends, or my trainers for training advice.
     
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    My vet asks me for training advice...and asked if I'd be interested in putting a class together so they could send their clients to me.
     
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    It's never occurred to me. I'm not the world's biggest fan of my current vet, though. I need a new one.
     
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    No I fully trust my vet when it comes to medical stuff but I don't really take advice on food or training from them
     
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    I didn't ask for it, but was given it because she didn't read the complete behavioral history on Scout I provided that includes the behavioral modification stuff I do with her (BAT and CU primarily) as well as all the sport foundation work we do. Suffice to say I'm horrified and disgusted at her recommendation and seriously considering changing vet practices.
     
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    No I don't, and I don't think I really ever would. Other than the very basic knowledge most people already have, *most* vets, just like *most* doctors are only taught the these symptoms=these tests/drugs. So I am assuming the only reason I need advice is become I am dealing with a much more involved and complicated issue...

    If I found a vet that I felt did a lot of OUTSIDE research on things, then I might. Otherwise, I wouldn't ask a vet for behaviour/training advice and I wouldn't ask a trainer for vet advice.
     
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    No. I love my vet but I go to him for matters of physical health. I do like him though. Keeva was quite DR the last time he saw her and never gave me any BS about being "dominant" or using force, and he's always interacted with her in a positive way. But no, I would not go to him for behavioral advice.

    My personal favorite are the vets that tell my clients that "neutering will calm him down". About a 6 month old Golden. Idiotic. Is that how you have to sell your surgeries? Jeez. Oh, or the vet that told a daycare client to pin and growl at his 9 month old bloodhound for resource guarding. Yaaaaay.

    Jess, I don't think people are saying that being a vet invalidates their advice, but rather that it doesn't automatically validate it. Most average pet owners think anything the vet says is the word of God Almighty, even when it has nothing to do with veterinary medicine.
     
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    Not unless they have competed or trained in the aspects of dog training I'm interested in. They may be awesome vets with a lot of medical knowledge but that doesn't mean they know how to train a dog. Also, living with dogs (no matter the number) does not make you a dog trainer or someone that is capable of giving good quality advice on that topic.
     
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    I really, really like our new vet, but it's highly unlikely I'd ever go to her or any other vet for training advice. If I was having an issue or a concern, I'd seek out an actual trainer or somebody I know who knows a lot about training and behaviour. I go to the vet for medical stuff. Some might be good trainers too, who knows, but generally speaking I'd say you'd get better advice for behavioural issues elsewhere.
     
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    I would ask.. but it would hold the same amount of weight I would put the advice of any dog owner. No more, no less.

    Just like I would my dog trainer about my dog's health..of course I would ask, but their opinion wouldn't be more weighted then anyone elses. because they are each PROFESSIONALS but it just isn't what they are trained to do.
     
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    I wouldn't ask a veterinarian for any training/behavioral advice, unless they were a veterinary behaviorist. I'd much rather go to knowledgeable, experienced dog trainers or friends that I have seen work with their dogs.

    I would also stop seeing a vet that gives me unsolicited training advice - when I brought Jack in to get his rabies vaccine at the clinic I used to use, they gave me a dominance lecture. I'm here for a vaccine, not advice. Please just poke my dog, I'll pay, and then we can go.

    However, if my dog was having behavioral issues that could be connected to a medical issue, then I wouldn't hesitate to see a veterinary behaviorist.
     
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    No I wouldn't. Vets are there for medical attention. Yes, I'm sure many of them know about training as well.... but being a vet does not mean you are a dog trainer, does not mean you are going to give good advice about my dog destroying the house or lunging at other dogs or not coming when called. Unless it's a veterinary behaviorist, then IMO training advice from a vet really holds no more merit than the advice I could get from Joe Schmoe at the dog park.

    We get a lot of training/behavioral questions, but one of our vet techs is a trainer as well so oftentimes we just field them to her.
     
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    No. Except the vet I worked with in IL who did competition Obedience and Agility with numerous dogs...I felt her advice was sound, lol.
     
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    Heck no. I had a vet tell me I was rewarding the growling of an injured dog when I was actually making a positive association for the dog which was beginning to work it's magic. If they knew anything about behavior, they would know rewarding growling Is a good thing. The dog was letting us know where it hurt.
     
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    maxfox426 My dog tickles my soul

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    If I had a training/behaviour issue, and I was at the vet's office around the time it cropped up, yes I would ask.

    I wouldn't necessarily take the vet's advice as law, though. Personally, I take training advice as a suggestion, and I think having more suggestions/ideas/input is better than less.

    At the end of the day, I will do what I deem most appropriate for my dog, regardless of where the advice came from.
     
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    No, but I would ask them for a referral to a trainer. Actually, I'd never thought of it... I've even been asked how I trained certain things.
    But I did ask if they heard of any good agility or RallyO trainers in the area. They named two, one I had heard of and one I had not... and it was a good suggestion! :D
     
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    darkchild16 We are Home.

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    I wouldnt ask my kids dr about education why would I ask my vet.
     
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    Silly question...but if your vet provided training/behavior services, would you then seek them out for a behavior problem/training issue?

    I'm graduating with a BS degree in Animal Science, focus of Animal Behavior and Well Being. I'd like to continue on in tech school and become a registered Vet Tech. One of the things I'd really like to do is become a certified Behavior Technician and be able to provide behavior/training advice to clients and perhaps offer basic seminars for people with new puppies, housebreaking issues, etc., etc.
    But so many people say, "I don't want to go to my vet for training advice", I'm not really sure if there would be a demand for that kind of thing.
     

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