Deinstalling a smoke detector?

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  1. GipsyQueen

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    So. Smoke Detectors aparently are now a must in my state. :rolleyes: They installed my complimentary smoke detector on friday and its driving me INSANE. First of, the smarty pants installed the thing directly (and I mean directly) OVER MY BED. (They also walked all over my bed with their nasty socks - bleck)
    Well. It blinks. And it blinks ALL.NIGHT.LONG. Which is annoying - but now it went off three times last night. THREE times. OVER MY BED. *sigh* so now I have come to the conclusion, it needs to be shut off, or just deactivated or something. Me and smoke detector will not become friends. -.-
    The last time I tried to deinstall one, I made it angry, so this time I would prefer not doing so. =/ So, how do I save my sanity and make it silent, forever?
     
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    If it is a battery powered smokey. Reach up, grab it, and twist left to remove. Then remove the mounting plate and reinstall in the corner 24" from the walls.

    If it is a line voltage with battery backup smokey request the landlord move it to a corner 24" from either wall. Or remove it, reach up, twist and pull,. unclip it from the power connector, place it in a closet with the battery removed, and install a battery powered unit in a corner 24" from either wall.

    Now these instructables are for US and Canadidian smoke detectors, as a German subject your mileage may vary.

    ETA: Place a piece of black tape over the LED and wrap the detector in plastic wrap. Also if you smoke in bed, STOP THAT.
     
  3. Barb04

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    Usually they are installed close to the door in the room, not over the bed. You want it to detect smoke as it just enters the room, not when it reaches you.

    I would have it moved and also maybe it's a defective one if it's going off for no reason.
     
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    who would put one over a bed?
     
  5. Lilavati

    Lilavati Arbitrary and Capricious

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    Also, it sounds like yours is defective. They should not go off for no reason. Some types go off a lot when people are cooking, but really, get one of the optical ones, which don't tend do that either, and are preferred by fire departments. And don't put it over your bed, as someone pointed out, you want to know about the smoke before its there.

    At the risk of infuriating some people on this board . . your state is right to require smoke detectors in rentals (I assume you are renting) and anyone who owns their home is an idiot not to have them. They are cheap and they save lives. A smoke detector probably saved my life when our apartment building in Phoenix burned down (and certainly saved that of my cats, because had we not had that warning, we would have been hard pressed to get out ourselves, let alone grab terrified animals). Just this past Christmas, five members of the same family (3 children and their grandparents, leaving the mother as the only survivor) were killed in a fire. There were no smoke detectors; had there been, they would likely be alive.

    We used to have the cheap kind that went off when we cooked . . .we'd take them down while cooking and put them back up afterwards . . . and then we switched to opticals. The new tenants at our old rental house now have VERY nice smoke detectors.

    So, move it, get one that is not defective, and if you have to resort to some black tape. But keep the detector. It is your friend, believe it or not.
     
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    They most certainly save lives! I agree. Get one that's not defective and put it closer to your door. I have them in every room of my house, in hallways and I don't even notice them. I agree that in rentals it should be required because it's part of being a landlord...to provide a safe and healthy environment for the tenant. It's required code here to put them in all new construction and has been for years. I urge you not to dismantle the thing. Just get the landlord to make it right. And if he doesn't do it, do it yourself or find someone to help you.
     
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    woops....the thing wasn't working right and this was a double post.:rolleyes:
     
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    Definitely agree!

    Not only does it protect you, it protects the other people in the building who you share walls with.

    Can you have them move it to a place that actually makes sense? I'd be mad, too, if they put one over my bed! We have them in every room and hallway, but I never even notice them.
     
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    Yes, absolutely. And the same goes for houses in a neighborhood. Or even not in a neighborhood. If a fire has more of a chance of spreading because of a lack of early warning, it could get into the trees and spread that way if it's a forested area or even grassy.
     
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    I wish we could take ours down while cooking, but my roommate learned in her security class that smoke detectors contain radon and tampering with them is illegal, so now she won't let us touch them. -_- At least they usually turn off right away when we push the button with the broom handle. Although sometimes they WON'T and one of us holds the button in on the one near the kitchen with the broom handle and the other takes the mop handle and presses the buttons on all the others until they shut up.
     
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    In my previous house, my smoke alarm would go off when I was cooking...the smallest amount of smoke would set it off. I'd hang a dish towel over it and sort of tuck it around. Then make sure to remember to take it off when I was through. The towel first would muffle the sound a little, then would act like a block to keep the smoke out. In my new house, that doesn't seem to happen. I think these may be a better kind...hopefully. I wonder if these newer kind "know" the difference between cooking smoke from foods and smoke from a fire. Hmmmm.
     
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    I just wish they had installed it in the house hallway. My apartment building only had studio apartments, and one bed rooms. :eek: I'd rather have a fire exit -.- (I live on the 7th floor, with only one way out).
    I think I'll call the company, to move the darn thing. Although I'm pretty sure the can't put it anywhere else. =/

    Thank you for the instructions though. ^^ I deinstalled it (after it went off AGAIN), and called the company. They're coming by in 3(!!!) weeks.
     
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    I had one in the hallway near the kitchen, tried every kind out there and they would go off all the time when we cooked. Last time I unplugged the darn thing and it still went off, took the battery off and the **** thing was still going, in a fit of temper I took it down to the workshop and smashed it with a hammer into a million pieces. I taught that smoke detector a lesson it won't soon forget. I finally removed all traces of it and installed another one elsewhere. We have 6 in the house and 3 carbon monoxide detectors.
     
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    We got these smoke detectors last year, after they came and switched them Because the ones we had were recalled for being "too sensitive". I swear, they came and replaced our good smoke detectors with one of the recalled ones, because this **** thing goes off when we boil water in the kettle.
     
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    Detectors do not contain radon, but americium-241. Taking them off the wall is no danger, though it might be illegal, since, rentals are typically required to have working detectors. Its not illegal to move it, or change the batteries though.

    http://www.epa.gov/radiation/sources/smoke_alarm.html

    It is a bad idea to take the things apart and play nuclear scientist though!
     
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    Meh, I dunno, but if it is defective, and they won't show up until in three weeks, Im NOT waking up 3 times a night because the darn thing wont stop. -.-
    We don't have to have them until July 7th 2012, so I should be safe. ^^
     
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    They do. Don't ask me how, but that's what all the information sites say, and its been my personal experience too . . . the old fashioned ones will drive you insane when cooking . . . the optical ones don't care. They also don't contain radioactive material . . .they use a light beam instead.

    Gypsy, I'd complain, and then for the short term just take it down. They usually just unscrew from their holders, or you can pull the battery. But definitely complain and get a working one in there pronto. At least IMO, a smoke detector is like a good solid lock . . . you shouldn't be living somewhere without one.
     
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    I don't think they do "know" the difference. There must be something else going on. Here's some more info. I think it's bad that you don't have a way to get out on the opposite side from the front door. That's really quite dangerous. There should always be two exits. Is there a window you can get out of in the back of the apartment?

    http://www.usfa.fema.gov/citizens/home_fire_prev/alarms/

    http://www.firstalertstore.com/store/categories/Smoke_alarms_faq.htm
     
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    I didn't mean they literally "know" simply that for some reason they don't go off when you are cooking. I'm sure it has to do with the physics of it, but I couldn't find an explanation other than the optical ones are better at dealing with smoldering fires.

    Authority seems to be split on whether you need a dual sensor or whether the optical ones are adequate for handling both fast fires and smoldering ones.

    My current ones appear to be optical and were installed by my security company . . . so far cooking and enameling don't bother them. I should probably install a couple more on my own as noise makers. . . (at $200 bucks a piece, one per floor from the security company is all that I can afford).

    Edit: The real test of the "no false alarms" is going to come when I get a kiln and make some cork-core metal clay beads . . . . of course, if that DOESN'T set off the alarm, I should perhaps have it tested . . .
     
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    This thread made me go, "Does my house even have smoke detectors?"

    It does--one. Next to the garage.
     

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