I swear you only read the meaning in what I write that you what to hear or expect to hear. What does it have to do with DA? Well if Sal had been on that porch he wouldn't have run down there and if he had he wouldn't have attacked the dog. Granted I wouldn't put him in that situation for his own safety but if he was in that situation he wouldn't be driven by DA to confront that other dog. I also did say in that post (apparently you fast forwarded past) "Now you and I know that it was the fault of the idiot human" For BSLs to happen, the attack doesn't have to be against humans....that was my point. If people view PBs as killers they will vote for BSLs. What is your definition of "Real" dog? (nothing implied or inferred here...honest question) You say dogs fight thats just reality...wow that surprised me from someone with a bully breed. You and I both know that bully breeds take fights much more seriously than most other breeds. Yeah they fight but nothing we do from breeding, socialization to training should facilitate that IMHO.