Crossbreeding

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  1. coreyk

    coreyk New Member

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    Has anyone ever heard of a pekingese and a cavalier king charles spaniel crossbred. If so what did you think of them
     
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    my exact thoughts were, cute pup!

    poor babes though, so many health issues you need to use your hands and toes to count them :(
     
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    Never heard of a mix of those 2 breeds.
    What makes you ask? :)
     
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    It's a cute puppy with horrible health issues and a too big price tag. In other words, bad idea; spay/neuter instead.
     
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    really?

    i thought hybrids were supposed to have "vigor" and be more healty then the original parents. Learn something new every day.

    what kind of health problems? I've never heard of that cross.
     
  6. colliewog

    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    If you breed two different breeds together who share similar health conditions, then those pups will be prone to the same problems. Hybrid vigor doesn't really apply to domestic dog breeding. And actually not to canines in general from what I've seen - look at the number of wolf-hybrids with hip dysplasia!

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  7. coreyk

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    I raise cavaliers and pekingese and neither have any health problems at all. Just thinking about breeding them.
     
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    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    What would one breed offer the other? (For instance, people who breed Doodles claim that the Poodle influence makes them low shedding). Basically, you've got two dogs with similar temperaments, long coats, and some other similarities. What would a Peke/Cav have over a purebred Peke or Cav?
     
  9. LabBreeder

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    There is no benefit IMO. It's just another crossbred designer dog to add to the overpopulation.
    Do you do health tests on your dogs or have they all just been "lucky" and not shown signs of hereditary problems that each breed is prone to?
    Are the parents titled (doesn't really matter unless it's a purebred breeding)?

    Why would you want to intentionally mix breeds? Profit? Become a byb? If this comes across as harsh, so be it. I do not condone mixed breeding for any reason save for (possibly) Australian Labradoodles that are being used to help handicapped people with allergies. Other than that, it's a shame. Not a purebred, not a breed, more health problems, definitely not improving either one since the pups are mixes. JMO as always.
     
  10. Please don't breed crossbred dogs...there are soooo many reasons that it is wrong....very wrong. Health issues etc. What is the point in breeding those two dogs? So you can have puppies to give to friends or family? Because you think all females should experience birth? Because you think that cross might be cute? Im not trying to be mean but these are all common reasons people breed crossbred dogs. There are SO many crossbred dogs in shelters that need homes already. Why add to the problem?? You should spay your female and neuter your male. Leaving them intact can lead to serious health issues? Have you ever bred before? Have you done ANY research on breeding? Do you know the time and money and heartache involved in breeding? There is absolutely NO reason to breed crossbred dogs and it is completly wrong.

    If you want to get into breeding find yourself a reputable breeder and get them to help you with it. If you must breed then breed healthy conformed purebred dog to another healthy, conformed purebred dog of the SAME breed.

    There are so many other threads on here that explain all these issues. Please take a look around and read them. Or maybe someone else in here can point you in the right direction of them.

    Please spay and neuter your pets.
     
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    have you had the appropriate health testing done on these dogs to prove that,

    and to be perfectly honest, both those breeds are prone to health problems the pekinese especially,
    and if you dont no that then you shouldnt even be breeding them at all
     
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    you are joking?
     
  14. Oh, so the OP is a breeder? A responsible, reputable breeder that knows what they are doing would NEVER think to crossbreed dogs.

    Im sorry if I sound rude but really crossbreeding is a serious problem that I wish people would stop doing.
     
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    Yes I do breed dogs and I do beleive that one breed can make another breed better and have less problems. My pekingese have a problem with herniasbut I bred a Shih-Tzu to a pekingese and never had a problem with hernias again with them and they shed about a 1/4 as much and they are twice as good looking dogs in my eyes Thats just my opinion everybody has their own. As far as I'm concerned a dogs a dog but there is ways you can make them better.... This is speaking from experience but I was just wondering about the cava-peke. I got both purebreeds and I like both but neither have life threatining health issues and I was just wondering what people thought of the hybrid. Thanks for all the comments though. Like I said everyone has their own opinion.
     
  16. First of all if you think that crossbreeding dogs make less health problems then you don't know nearly enought about breeding to be doing it. You are not adding anything good to either breed because what you are breeding isn't a breed anymore. Its a crossbred with even more health issues. It might not show up in the first generation, but what about the next? Do the people you sell your dogs to have to have them S/N?

    THERE IS NO REASON TO CROSSBREED DOGS!!!!!!!!!

    Why not try breeding hereditary issues out of PUREBRED ones? Then you would be doing something.

    All you are doing right now is adding to the overpopulation problem!

    Ok Summit where are you when we need you!
     
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    I dont know if they spay or neuter them but I tell them to talk to me about them if they ever have problems and none have ever said anything to me about it.. I do have healthy dogs and they came from a good line that has very few health problems. But every dog has some kind of problem no matter what breed it is. Don't fool yourselves it doesnt matter if you still have health problems because it is still a dog. All have some sort of problem. And I do consider them a breed just a crossbreed they are still a dog. God forbid they are a cat. LOL I don't mean to cause a conflict but I was just throwing my opinin out there and I like to hear others opinions as well.
     
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    have you have genetic health testing done to prove this CERF, etc?
    just because a dog looks healthy doesnt mean it isnt carrying a genetic disease

    btw did you read my links?
     
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    that is because of poor breeding,
    that exact phrase is why you should only breed TESTED dogs
     
  20. LabBreeder

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    Do you do health tests on the parents?
    Have you proven your dogs (titles, etc)?
    Do you offer a guarantee against health problems?
    Have you ever bred before?

    Do you understand that all you are doing is creating a mixed breed that WILL have the potential of having MORE problems than a single purebred (simply because you are mixing 2 breeds with health problems)?
    Do you care that you are adding to overpopulation?

    I see you as another back yard breeder in it for the money. :mad: You don't care about either breed, the pups, how they grow up, their health, nothing. You breed, you sell and you think what your doing is fine and acceptable. Man, you are truly in the wrong place.
     

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