Cropping & Docking - For or Against?

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  1. FrenchKissed

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    Most serious fanciers do not let the puppies go home for the new owner to crop. Many a doberman/dane/boxer breeder keeps puppies until well past 12 weeks old so that the crops can be done, healed and properly posted
     
  2. ToscasMom

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    I do think Dobes look better with cropped ears, but I probably wouldn't do it. I couldn't even watch my dog sweat and suffer in the heat of summer with her ears glued and taped. I removed the bindings and never redid them. Thus, she has one ear up and one ear down. If I had the choice, I wouldn't have done it at all, but she came to me that way. I would have just let nature do what nature does. I know that when I read descriptions of Collies, AKA AKC, they desribe their ears as tipped, but it's just not always so, obviously. I think it's disingenuous to imply that all Collies have "naturally" tipped ears. Maybe some do, but it is just not so overall. Otherwise, people wouldn't be taping them down in puppyhood.

    So you can imagine that if I am wincing about taping, I wouldn't imagine I would be brave enough to do cropping.
     
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  5. SizzleDog

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    I'm happy my dogs are docked - Dobermans have such skinny, bony, unprotected tails that I'd rather them go throuh a few seconds of discomfort as puppies than to potentially suffer though an adult amputation or several bouts of happy tail.... I'm sure Ronin would have been one of those dogs, as he knocks into EVERYTHING at top speed.

    I believe terrier tails are docked to be the correct length for "hand-holds" - so the owner can easily pull them out of a quarry hole, or off their quarry alltogether. I could be wrong though.

    Just my opinion though - everyone is certainly welcome to their own! :)
     
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  7. PWCorgi

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    Pembroke Welsh Corgis were orginially docked so that they wouldn't be mistaken for foxes. Many people think that it had to do with taxes, but alas this is not true.

    Just a little FYI :D
     
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    There is nothing remotely attractive about amputating perfectly functional body parts. I think the practice of cropping especially is absolutely disgusting. It is PURELY cosmetic and serves no functional purpose. Altering a dogs natural image to fit some written 'ideal' standard.

    I can't believe that it has not been outlawed in the USA yet.
     
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    I've never seen breeders sell cropped puppies....I thought at least that was left up to the owner? Once again, cropped dogs are highly unattractive to me, especially dobermans....
     
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    I agree 100% Thank You!!!!
     
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    Personally, I don't care either way. I like cropped dogs and I like floppy eared dogs. I think people should be free to do what they want with their dogs, and if they choose to crop responsibly, then let them. I agree 100% with Aussie Red.

    I've been around lots of (Doberman) puppies after they've been cropped and they're absolutely no different from their floppy eared siblings, except that their ears are a bit itchy.

    As far as docking goes, I have zero problems with that too.

    A good breeder, if they're into cropping, will always sell their pups already cropped to ensure that it was done properly and at the right age. Some will give a choice to the owner of whether they want cropped or natural ears, but they certainly wouldn't send the puppy home with an owner who wanted a cropped dog without getting ti done first.
     
  12. HarleyD

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    Last time I looked, most of the traditionally docked breeds don't require being docked or cropped in the show ring. It's like an opitional thing now.

    Either way, I know some dogs look "cooler" with cropped ears and a docked tail, but personally I don't believe in doing it. I've watched tail dockings and ear crops and it just seems cruel.
     
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    It depends on the breed's standard. Also depends on how seriously faulted natural ears and tails are, from breed to breed.
     
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    I am not against it..I am all for letting the owner decide.

    And I could not agree more Aussie! If you are for it that is fine, and if you are against it that is fine too.

    But what I absolutly HATE, is when people put down a responsible owner for cropping their pups ears. If you don't agree with cropping that is fine, but there is no reason to bash people who are for it.

    I own 2 natural eared great danes..wouldn't want them any other way. And while I ADORE their big floppy ears, I do prefer the look of a cropped Dane.. my next Dane will be cropped. Just my preference.
     
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    In many cases it is, but not in all. Ear cropping can help with chronis ear infections... one member cropped her Dobe's ears and the ear infections stopped. I'm afraid I can't remember the member's name, though... maybe someone else can. I also vaguely remember someone telling me their vet recommended it for their Lab.. LOL.
     
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    Ive often heard this as a reason to crop but have never found any evidence to back it up - do you have a link at all?

    Im sure we have no more ear infections here than normal even though cropping has been banned for decades so just wondered if there was any scientific based evidence?
     

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