Critique my buyer questionnaire please

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  1. Linds

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    noludoru Bored Now.

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    OFA data on Am Bullies

    If you go to the OFA website, you will see that 33% of Am Bullies are rated as dysplastic. And remember, the x-rays that are obviously bad never get submitted so the true number is likely worse. http://www.offa.org/stats_hip.html

    Here's my description of a living nightmare: I imagine I did a breeding and did not do the available screening on the parents for a genetic problem common to the breed. Then some of the puppies come up with this painful crippling condition. I go back and check the parents, and they are not clear. If I had done the testing beforehand the breeding never would have happened. In this case I would be personally responsible for every painful step, every struggle to get up, and every child who cries because their puppy can't play or needs to be euthanized.

    To willfully create pain and suffering is cruel and morally bankrupt.
     
  4. SpringerLover

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    LOL. I couldn't figure out how to say just that.
     
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    I think reputable breeders of (English/American) bulldogs and pekingese are at least somewhat concerned about the health and longevity of their breeds though. Yeah, they may not be 'athletes' or capable of running a marathon, but they should be able to at least walk down to the end of the lane and back.

    I don't even know what to say when THIS dog is OK to be shown.
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    I mean..I'm on an ACD breeder's group on FB, and they are discussing the nuances of a slightly rounded vs slightly flat croup, or the correct planes of the head. It's hard to take the "American Bully" seriously when that dog exists ^ and is something to be proud of.

    You know what, you're an asshole.
     
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    Please tell me people aren't breeding for that look?? It's awful enough it got shown.
     
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    Also, I did a little googling like Dizzy did. You were on a thread a few years ago, talking about and recommending an American Bully breeder that does health testing. There are others that have come as being health tested and moderate. Also, you said "I am hoping to improve my breed, I will be titling, health testing, altering pets, selling on co owns and contracts, etc. Its not a thing you see a lot in the bullies but I am hoping as more people do it, it catches on. "

    What happened?
     
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    I've been googling too and ugh. I feel dirty just looking at some of these dogs. I can't even imagine being part of a breed that appears to purposely aim at a non functional dog.

    I mean...wtf is this?

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    Sorry for the huge picture, I don't want others to witness the horror that is that facebook "breeder".
     
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    That is what happens when a frog is bred with a hippo....
     
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    I would like to see someone breeding in the right direction, it will take time and work and I'm patient. I hope it betters the dogs and their quality of life along the way.

    Good luck FrostFell, I hope you figure things out and help the breed.
     
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    Wow...lol.

    And this ladies and gents is what to NOT look for in a breeder. At this point, no matter what you were breeding, I wouldn't enter a buyer's relationship with you if you were breeding dogs that turned into golden farcking unicorns after midnight and glowed in the dark and pooped Skittles.

    Sorry, I don't know about everyone else, but I want to avoid sharing the next decade or more (or less, most likely, for your potential buyers) in a relationship with the breeder of my dog when they're a little bit (read=metric **** tons) on the cray-cray side. Red flags and all that jazz... I'd rather have a breeder that I could go to if I were having problems and not have them go all Sybil on me.

    Maybe that's just me, though..
     
  12. release the hounds

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    That's crazy talk, you know you'd buy a skittle pooping unicorn :D
     
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    I'm game for one of those. The crowds of hungry children following you on walks might be kind of awkward though.
     
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    That's why you also need a polar bear on a leash, to guard you from the hoards of gimmies.
     
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    Shoot, buy TWO and breed your own. GOLDMINE. LITERALLY. GOLDEN SKITTLE POOPING UNICORN MINE.
     
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    I just. . . so much love. I've missed you. :D

    But would they be health tested, or do we just not care because we're too busy stuffing our faces full of skittles?
     
  17. Oko

    Oko Silence, peasants.

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    They're proven skittle providers, what more do you want?


    And I'll need to borrow Squash. He's kinda a polar bear.
     
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    Yea, but I guarantee you he'd just eat all the Skittles himself. :/
     
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    Bonus! You wouldn't even need to bring poop bags along.

    You'd have to make sure and health test the unicorns. Otherwise they might end up producing something off, like those gross pina colada tropical flavored skittles. *shudders*. I'd be really unhappy if something like that came from my lines.
     

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