Considering a pet rat. Help!!!

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  1. Bigpoodleperson

    Bigpoodleperson Megan and Draco

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    I am considering bringing home a pet rat or two. I have never had any pet beyond a cat/dog before. Im not sure what Im getting into. There is this female rat at work that I love. She is less then a year old. I am considering taking her home as they are getting rid of her (she isnt fertile). How much work are rats? What do you "do" with them? Do they pee/poop everywhere/on you when out? How much light/heat/etc do they need? Do they need compainions? There are baby rats from another female, and they said I could take one of those too. Do rats like companions? Another female? Just not sure what Im getting myself into. I shouldnt have become attached to this rat, but I dont want to see her go. Help!
     
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    Quickly, rats should definitely have at least one companion..I prefer three or four personally. They technically can be litter box trained but I wouldnt personally rely on that unless you can really invest a lot of time into it. There are a couple GREAT rat forums out there that have a TON of info. Make sure you have a appropriate sized cage (there are rat cage calculators to make sure). What to do with them...depends on their personalities and what you want:) Females tend to be busier and more active where males tend to be squishy cuddlers. They are very trainable, especially with a clicker.

    Definitely do same sex grouping unless you neuter the males (and even then you have to keep seperate before the surgery and for a bit after)
     
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    Rats are pretty great. They should have a buddy or more (same sex). You have to make sure they're on a good diet or they will reek, females are less smelly than males and without the massive balls lol. They can be litter trained, or at least kind of litter trained. If I were you I would take her, especially since you're already attached :p. Remember they only live for a few years. Although they DO enjoy people, you can make them a playpen and they're easily amused with new things to chew/climb through etc. so they don't require a massive daily time commitment.

    It's best to get them a cage instead of an aquarium IMO. Aquariums are easier to clean...way easier to clean but rats lurve to climb. Make sure the bars are powder coated. IME you need to clean it at least once a week. The bars need to be wiped down, and the bottom emptied. They should get a steady diet of some kind of lab block (you may want to research the best brand in your area because if it's too high in protein or whatever... they will not smell nice) as well as fresh veggies with some chicken/fish/egg/insect morsels mixed in. Instead of lab blocks, some people mix their own food, you could look into that.

    Some training comes in handy (condition them to come to a clicker click or something) because if they get out loose in your house they can be HARD to get back, we had rats that escaped into the house that went missing for a week.

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    They can be very messy, they can smell, but they are fascinating to watch. I had a pair of females, so not very cuddly, but Tabasco was amazingly smart; Rae was just a shy, bitey bitch who liked to stay in the cage.

    Then again, I essentially had BYB rats in a less than optimal set up. I loved them to pieces, but there is so much I'd do differently if I had rats again.
     
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    I have to say that my favorite rats ever were some neutered males that I got from the animal shelter. If you keep the female, check your shelters/ rat rescues to see if there are some neutered boys available, then you could have a busy body and a cuddler :D
     
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    What everyone else said..

    They are great, fun little pets. They enjoy having at least one same sex companion. They're omnivores and, thus, enjoy a varied diet. They are quite dog like and easily learn their names, etc.
     
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    Bigpoodleperson Megan and Draco

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    Ok, thanks guys! I will have to look into some things. If I got her then I would take one of the babies for a companion (prob. a female, I dont think they would let me take 2). I will look into some things. I have a few weeks to decide. Considering the alterinative, I will almost surely bring her home. :) Can someone please post some good rat forums? Thanks!
     
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    http://www.goosemoose.com/rfc/ is a great rat forum :)

    I just recently got two new boys, they're really fun pets!

    But they aren't as "simple" as lots of people make them out to be (they aren't hard to keep pets by any means though). So many think you can just toss them into an aquarium with pine bedding, feed some generic "Rat" mix from the pet store and you're done. Not the case, that is if you want to be a decent rat owner ;)

    Wire cages are best; Martin's Cages are GREAT. A good one for two rats would be the R-680 or R-685 (I have the 685 for my boys). I use Yesterday's News as bedding, it's great for controlling odor and lasts forever. I feed Oxbow's Regal Rat; it's a complete diet, so nothing else is really needed.. although I give fruits, veggies, bread, all kinds of other stuff when I remember.

    Hammocks are another thing I'd invest in.. they LOVE them :) There are people on Goosemoose who make them and they aren't too expensive. Another thing to think about is vet care.. rats are pretty prone to URI's, tumors (especially unspayed females), and a couple other things and when they get sick, it's NOT cheap (unless you have a really cool vet).

    They're awesome little pets though!
     
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    Bigpoodleperson Megan and Draco

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    Ok. Can I get those cages at a local store, or will I have to order them? As for vet care, that isnt a problem. Im a vet tech, and Im getting these rats from the college I teach at (they are rats used for teaching/hands on stuff). Vet care is no problem. :)
    Will it be too cold to keep them in the basement? Its furnished, and they would be in a bedroom. I live down there too, but it can get chilly.
     
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    When I was a teen and lived in another province some friends of mine had pet rats and they were very well mannered and sweet. Alberta though is suppose to be rat free so it is illegal to bring pet rats into the province. Can't wait to see pictures if you do bring her home.
     
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    I don't know a great deal about rats, just that they really need a companion, as you've been told. They are gorgeous little critters though, and I'd love a pair someday.
     
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    Well, local stores don't sell them, but if you look around on CL, or even on the rat forum I linked you to, you may be able to find one used for a good price. Just make sure that whatever you get is powder coated. If it's not, the urine gets on the bars and the smell will NOT come out.

    There are other brands of cages that are nice, some of the Super Pets are pretty good.

    It would depend on how cold the basement is.. if you gave them lots of places to burrow into, they should be okay.
     
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    I bought the 5' tall Martins cage, shipped it from Illinois (I think?) to BC, I didn't like it. I think it's currently serving as lattice for brambles. lol

    I'd go for a Critter Nation cage if I was doing it again. Those look great!

    Martin's cages are powder coated woven wire mesh, so there are MANY welded joins. The joins are harder to clean really well, you really need to get around each and every one of them. The rat takes a leak on the top shelf, and the pee runs down alllllll those little wire intersections. I did wipe it down regularly but there were spots I missed and the pee ate through the powder coating. Also, my cage got a bit deformed over time--after all, it's only made out of woven wire. Another thing is that the doors are a bit small and make cleaning the floors pretty awkward at places (like behind some ramps).

    The CN cages have much nicer, mostly horizontal bars, the vertical bars are sparse, so fewer joins and way easier cleaning. The also look thicker and as if there are fewer of them. The structure is rigid. The doors completely open up the front. The solid floors mean that pee doesn't drip down the entire height of the thing. I've never seen one in person but they look awesome! The only problem I see with them is that the pans are pretty shallow.
     
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    I LOVE my critter nation...have the double one. However, if one wants to use litter in it (like carfresh and the like) you have to special order deeper pans. I just use fleece liners but it is a bit of a pain because my girls are not litter trained so it gets stinky faster as the poop is just on the fleece.
     
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    lol you posted as I was editing mine! Does it cost extra to order the deeper pans? I'm in love with that cage :D
     
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    yes, you have to get them from somewhere else. Honestly though the cage is so awesome and easy to clean its not really a big deal...just something to be aware of:)
     
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    I had a FN & a CN, really wasn't a fan. Mainly because all of my past rats were HORRIBLE chewers, so when I tried using fleece and/or towels for bedding, they ended up burrowing underneath, and just driving me nuts. I did have the Bass pans in my CN, which were nice for the bedding though.

    I greatly prefer the Martin's. But, everyone is different! I put those sticky tiles you can buy at Lowe's on the levels of my Martin's, so no pee runs through the wires ;) Just wipe it down daily with a baby wipe and you're good! Plus, you can throw them in the tub to do a full clean, can't really do that with the FN or CN.
     
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    I have a double Critter Nation and my rats just can't do fleece, etc. They shred, pee on, etc...it just ends up gross. That aside, I like the cage quite a lot. Going to order the Bass pans though :)
     

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