Discussion in 'The Fire Hydrant' started by Fran101, Dec 9, 2012.
I totally agree with this.
Those that I have known that have done time in prison usually reoffend. Actually I don't know any that didn't. I know ONE that has managed to stay out for a little while, but he is still quietly dealing pot and pills. I was just writing to say I don't know any violent offenders, but I looked up one of my old friends and he is in prison until 2017 for serious domestic charges. You look them up and it's multiple charges year after year.
Obviously I don't know what programs they went through (other than the FL prison system), but there's definitely an issue there.
Those that I know that reoffended..well, they have nothing to work for. They don't get gainfully employed because of their history. They don't have families. Usually 20 something men that live off warehouse jobs and get into trouble. Then they get back out when they are 30 and get into more trouble. It sucks. My ex (I was kind of stupid) had been in the system (juvie) since he was 13 and has spent MOST of his adult life in prison, house arrest, or on probation. I left him when he was on house arrest and found out he was going out to bars when he was not supposed to. I'm alright if you are working to better yourself but I wouldn't put up with putting yourself at that much risk to go back. He got arrested a month after I broke up with him and was in prison for like 3 years...smh.
And you know, maybe it IS the system keeping them down, but maybe the repeated offenders are just meant to be like that. There's just some people you have to shrug your shoulders at, what are you going to do if they won't help themselves...
A lot of people behind bars are not violent people. Many of them have made stupid decisions. Staying together would be very hard if the significant other is imprisoned. It would not be unusual for couples to drift away from each other and finally break the relationship off. Interestingly, a lot of couples would stay together despite the hardship. Is it true love? Love and commitment? Whatever the reason they would look forward to the telephone sessions and to conjugal visits. Conjugal visit is a privilege given to an inmate for good behavior. If this kind of "reward" would somehow ease the loneliness of the couple and would prevent prison violence then why not?
I agree that prisons focus should be rehab, not punishment.
Conjugal visits I am fine with for the most part, i am sure I could think of exceptions but in general, anything that keeps people connected, keeps their empathy in check (which sex in and of itself doesnt I realize but for someone who is truly in a loving relationship it will help), etc.
Now, the women marrying strangers in jail, that does totally ick me out.
Besides the issue of conjugal visits, our prison systems need an entire reform. Prisons just teach inmates to be better criminals, rather than reforming them into productive members of society.
To quote Andy Dufrense, "The funny thing is - on the outside, I was an honest man, straight as an arrow. I had to come to prison to be a crook. "
As to the topic - I have no issue with conjugal visits as a reward for good behavior. It seems to work in "the world" - why else would a man do the dishes if he didn't think he'd get a "reward"? :rofl1: