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Keechak

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Oh I put the point of his knee WAY too high, didn't I? And shoulder blade too far back on his back. Whoops. ANATOMY FTW.

I'm an acupuncturist, I'm used to FEELING for landmarks, not VISUALIZING them. :p
actually the point of the shoulder is at the right level, but it looks like you made the point of the shoulder just a tad too far forward.

As far the rear, your stifle joint is too high and too far forward. He actually has less angulation in the rear than in the front.
 

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I'm guessing if people want their dogs "lined" they could just post a pic and there are folks who could do it? I'm heading out for a bit but could some later. After I ante up my Kim & Web pics if I can find them. Web doesn't self-stack often, partially due to his structure, so it'll be a search I am sure
 
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I think this is a little better. Although honestly it's REALLY hard for me to find landmarks looking at a picture, I really need to feel the dog. I should put some little colored sticker dots on his landmarks before I take a picture. :p



ETA: Here he is plain.

 

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I'm guessing if people want their dogs "lined" they could just post a pic and there are folks who could do it? I'm heading out for a bit but could some later. After I ante up my Kim & Web pics if I can find them. Web doesn't self-stack often, partially due to his structure, so it'll be a search I am sure
I would love that! Unfortunately I just went through like 300 pages on Flickr and all the best 'stacked' shots of the Dobermans have them wearing coats haha. I'll have to see if I can find some on the computer at home that I just haven't uploaded. I think I do.
 

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I'm guessing if people want their dogs "lined" they could just post a pic and there are folks who could do it? I'm heading out for a bit but could some later. After I ante up my Kim & Web pics if I can find them. Web doesn't self-stack often, partially due to his structure, so it'll be a search I am sure
That would be so cool. I think the only picture I have of any dog looking stacked is this one:


TipperStack by taqroy, on Flickr

And I really don't think her back is that hunched up normally (I could be wrong as I don't pay a whole lot of attention lol).

ETA: And of course she's in a harness which probably doesn't help. Whoops.
 

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Now I want to get stacked pictures off ALL of my dogs. I will be attempting this when my husband gets home :p
 

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Had a little more time than I thought so here's Kim. She's one of those dogs you need to confirm with your hands -- it would easy to mistake her mane as her shoulder angle. Her rear feet are not set right (she was just standing in the yard) so that throws off the rear angles just a bit but this gives a pretty good idea.

Just as a note there are somewhat different ways of drawing lines too (within a certain range anyway). For example, Keechak tends to draw her lower leg line through the point of the hock whereas I tend to draw mine through the joint. As long as you note where the line is drawn and are consistent in the way they are drawn it is helpful either way.



Basically I got hella lucky with Kim, a puppy plucked off of Petfinder for her pretty face and herder type. While she is also not perfect she is built well. I don't have many gaiting pics of my dogs but her structure allows her to have nice reach -- look how far her extended legs stretch relative to her nose/rear as well as the balance, despite the surface (she's on a frozen ice channel covered in snow):
 

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The Muppet looks like this when stacked...



And in a full out run!





Whim stacked

8 weeks


16 months



20 months


3 years


Somewhat wet 3 1/2 years
 

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Wow Kim is really pretty nice structurally! Sometimes you do get lucky :)

I'd love to have some "lined" pictures...I don't have the editing know how to put lines on mine own :/
 

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Now I want to get stacked pictures off ALL of my dogs. I will be attempting this when my husband gets home :p
Stacking my dogs always looks so sad. LOL

I have things like this:





(poor gangly babydog was going through raw detox while we were trying to add weight on him, it's almost mean to share this photo)

I'm realizing I have no standing still photos of Backup. I aside from motion have bracing, "stand" which was never taught with a proper stack, and downing. LOL
 

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That is a fantastic link!! Wish I had come across it sooner, it would have helped a lot while I was reading critiques.

Could someone do the lines for Trent? I have the worst time trying to visualize front angulation especially, and still can't tell where the loin is and how to spot a long vs. short vs. adequate croup (where the croup ends and begins).



Sloan is gorgeous. And her condition <3 I love the amount of rear on her.
 
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Oooh fun! I'm with Devan though, understanding structure alludes me. I just know what feels right and what doesn't and that doesn't say much.

Also, I just love Kim. And Kim's massive amount of coat.

Here's the most recent one of Traveler at around 2 1/2 years old

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/travelingkoolie/7931664060/" title="9:4:2012 by Traveling Koolie, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8310/7931664060_7e14f98ca7.jpg" width="500" height="343" alt="9:4:2012"></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/travelingkoolie/8357149956/" title="Traveler by Traveling Koolie, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8074/8357149956_25bdfb2b75.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Traveler"></a>

And Didgie at around 9 months

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/travelingkoolie/8267497113/" title="12:12:12 by Traveling Koolie, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8341/8267497113_be1ed12d01.jpg" width="500" height="366" alt="12:12:12"></a>
 

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Wow Kim is really pretty nice structurally! Sometimes you do get lucky :)

I'd love to have some "lined" pictures...I don't have the editing know how to put lines on mine own :/
I just use Paint :)
 

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I don't think I have ever seen what Ozzy looks like build wise. Very surprising LOL he has a very Chow-like build!

Are you thinking of slipped hocks? That is really a ligamentation issue and I think it's probably most common in dogs with straight rears.

It's hard to tell exactly with the camera angles and the 3/4 view in the one shot but Enzo's topline has a dip and a rise and she seems to like to stand with her rear legs under her.
She doesn't always stand like that, but yes, she does tend to do that when I'm trying to take pictures lol. She's also very stressy in the first picture of her. She didn't like being told how to stand lol.


Oh wow! I wouldn't have ever guessed Ozzy was as straight as he is! Very interesting.

Ozzy is somewhat of a train wreck lol. His knees are really straight, and I fully expect him to have arthritis as he gets older. I could be wrong, but with the amount of leaping running and twisting that he does on those knees, it wouldn't surprise me in the least. I'm not sure which parent he gets that from, but I'm going to guess the JRT father wasn't built so great.

If/when I get better pictures of them stacked, I'd like to see what their angles say about how they should move. :p
 
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This is the closest I will ever get to Maisy "stacked" - she's standing on a slight incline, though.




And my attempt...

 

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I figured out ipiccy.com. But now after I did the girls, I'm questioning if I'm doing this right. Doesn't help that I've only done it on danes forever. :rofl1:

Here's Zinga's 5 month stack picture. I did her 6 month one and it balanced out a lot better, but even here I like her balance.

Zinga stack by ZooomDog Photography, on Flickr

Oh Zuma, you may have great angulation but you are still awkward.

Zumastack by ZooomDog Photography, on Flickr
 

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Eight months old, and yeah we're not good at stacking here. ;)


A few months ago, her top line is not that wonky, I had just bathed her and used the forced air drier so she was floofed up.
 

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