Colors of your Breed?

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Sables have been eliminated from the conformation show ring by the American Spaniel Club. Sable can be "solid" or parti. There are black sables, red sables, and chocolate sables. There are also Merles. Like sables, this color is not considered an "acceptable" color for Cocker Spaniels and these dogs cannot be shown.
But a sable is able to still be registered with the AKC. It's not an unacceptable colour. It's like merle in the dane world. There is no issue with it happening. You just can't show them. A merle is not acceptable in the cocker world.

Sable isn't a confo eligible colour in the states.. but a merle is not eligible for anything period.

You can still show a sable in the CKC. People breeding merles are often skeazy losers that lie and register their dogs as roans so they can have 'papers'.

Reggin.. most people I see breeding merle cockers have really fugly dogs that barely look like the breed. Many have pretty byb lack of ethics. I've seen a scant few that look good.. but the ones that look like the standard often have very minimal merle on them.
 

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I had no idea that the ones without black were not proper. I've been wondering about that. Madisons great grandad (also our neighbor) breeds these dogs for hunting. And I think he shows too. He calls the ones with no black "lemon".

Some of his lemons...



This dog is almost completely white...



Lemon puppy.



Actually, the 1st and 3rd pic are red/white, not lemons.
 

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Miniature Pinscher red, stag red, black/tan or rust, chocolate/tan or rust, fawn/tan, blue/tan. In UKC all the colors are showable including the blue and fawn.
AKC they are registerable, but not showable.

Harlequin, blue merle is a DQ and all out no-no for the breed.
Then there are specifics about white markings, black markings within the tan, etc.

Pugs...Fawn (several shades of) and black.
White, brindle...DQ and also a breed no-no.
 

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lemon is yellow/cream and it is an allowed color for most american foxhounds but is more common in running walkers than most other field lines.
 

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there shouldn't be merle or brindle beagles because there is no merle or brindle in the english foxhound or any english scenthound breed.
 

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Albino is a big no-no. Absolutely no responsible breeder will ever breed an albino or create an albino puppy. In fact, most responsible breeders shy away from the dilutes, as well.
I saw an albino dobe once - it was like seeing a ghost, I couldn't help but stare.
But a sable is able to still be registered with the AKC. It's not an unacceptable colour. It's like merle in the dane world. There is no issue with it happening. You just can't show them. A merle is not acceptable in the cocker world.

Sable isn't a confo eligible colour in the states.. but a merle is not eligible for anything period.

You can still show a sable in the CKC. People breeding merles are often skeazy losers that lie and register their dogs as roans so they can have 'papers'.

Reggin.. most people I see breeding merle cockers have really fugly dogs that barely look like the breed. Many have pretty byb lack of ethics. I've seen a scant few that look good.. but the ones that look like the standard often have very minimal merle on them.
I knew a sable could be reg, but I'm not up with the technicals of the AKC or CKC, etc. I'm glad you posted :) I actually saw a sable at a dog show here (not being shown, just along for the trip) and I was intrigued by the color, because I've only seen pictures previously
I was going to respond and say just about the same thing you did for Reggin (and any lurkers here on chaz!) I would be very leary of any breeder breeding specifically for a rarer color. I've heard most merles are reg as partis with breeders like these

Like this thread, very informative about breeds, I've never knew about some of these colors :popcorn:
 

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Accepted Dalmatian colors are white with black spotting or white with Liver(brown) spotting. With Blacks being more common/recognised color. Although liver IS gaining in popularity(and my personal favorite).
Some lesser known colors/patterns are.
Tri color in either color. Long haired
Mosaics (not to be confused with tri color) Mosaics usually consist of a black or liver dog with a single spot of a different color.
Orange, lemon, brindle, blue, two tone spots(of any color).

Various photos and discriptions of all of the above mentioned color/patterns.
This page explores the coat and color variations seen in Dalmatians.
 

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Just wanted to mention....
where I use to be a kennel helper at (large show collie breeding kennel)
we had a few collies that looked %100 tri colored until you noticed that split right down the middle... half of his face of merle!
 

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I have mixes, but my fav breed and the primary breed for two of my pups is the Australian Cattle Dog.

I don't know much about DQs in the show ring, but primary colors in the breed are "blue" (aka black and white ticking) and red (red and white ticking); there are numerous ticking patterns and a number of different colors (chocolate, shades of blue and red, combos of blue and red, etc.).

This link is the best I could find. :)

http://www.ar.com.au/~norclark/acdcoat3.htm

My girl, who is blue:


My boy, who is "clear red speckle"(with interesting black markings):
 

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For West Highland White Terriers it's a given that they only come in white. Slight wheaten tipping is acceptable on the jacket.
 

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I have mixes, but my fav breed and the primary breed for two of my pups is the Australian Cattle Dog.

I don't know much about DQs in the show ring, but primary colors in the breed are "blue" (aka black and white ticking) and red (red and white ticking); there are numerous ticking patterns and a number of different colors (chocolate, shades of blue and red, combos of blue and red, etc.).

This link is the best I could find. :)

http://www.ar.com.au/~norclark/acdcoat3.htm

My girl, who is blue:


My boy, who is "clear red speckle"(with interesting black markings):
I met an ACD today that had an almost sable coat to her, it was nifty looking.
 

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Tollers are only accepted in varying shades of red, with or without white markings on their face, paws, chest, and tail tip. They do occassionally come in other colours though, like buff, tri-colour, and sable. I'll see if I can find the pictures I have of Tollers those colours.

Dobermans come in red, black, blue, and fawn.
 
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I LOVE albino dobermans. I would NEVER purchase one from a breeder, but I'd like to rescue one some day. You can find quite a few on petfinder.
 

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I do think those are cute dogs, but both the UKC and AKC breed standards have this language:

Color
Tri-colored is preferred, white, black and tan. White may be the predominant color with black marking and tan trim; or black may be the predominant color with white marking and tan trim, such as a saddle back or blanket back. White with tan spots or white with black spots may be accepted. Fault – any other color combination will be penalized when shown

When I look at bench show results from the UKC, the winners are always tri, and usually blanket back at that. Of course, hunters can use any color dog, and seem very intrigued by odd colors. I know there is a guy that hunts a bitch with one calico ear.
I know lemon is totally acceptable among hunters, and at "hound shows" such as the MidAmerican hound club. My father used to have a completely dark tri pack, but brought in a bunch of lemon English-bred hounds as new blood. The pack is now much flashier, and about half lemon, but they still win the same number of awards! In fact, I spectically remember a rather pinkish lemon named Dazzler who won some conformation awards at hound shows. But then the hunters, pack or gun, and the AKC people are totally different people.
 

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border collies

Border Collies also come in brindle, lilac, blue...with or without tan points, with or without ticking, and then you throw in white and get huge variety! Here is an EXCELLENT site on bc colors:

BC Museum: Looks


Of my 3 bcs, two are black tris, one of which is an almost split face and one is almost a medicine hat, and a white with blue merle markings. The mostly white girl is out of a blue merle with tan points and a black tri. Her white comes from the fact that both parents are white factored, but don't show a lot of white. Her mother is mostly black with thin white strips running up the front of her hind legs. Dad had a big blaze and lots of white up his front legs. We certainly weren't breeding for white, but didn't mind it as a by product.
 

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